Recent Topics
Time for a new Generator... Wisdom desired!
by webfors. 09/24/18 06:36 AM
flat roof weight bearing support
by henni. 09/24/18 06:29 AM
ADD A MARBLE - Make Life Easier
by MasterSolenoid. 09/24/18 06:17 AM
Mobile 1 ESP @ Dowler Karn St. Thomas Ont
by RogerBacon. 09/24/18 05:40 AM
Mobile 1 ESP @ Dowler Karn St. Thomas Ont.
by RogerBacon. 09/24/18 05:37 AM
Direct Injection Valve Cleaning Maintenance
by RayCJ. 09/24/18 05:20 AM
Chattanooga tn ,cycling
by CourierDriver. 09/24/18 04:42 AM
Sunrise, Sunset
by csandste. 09/24/18 02:39 AM
Adding fuel filter- Generator built with no filter
by rubberchicken. 09/23/18 09:57 PM
Clutch Engaging too low
by Spetz. 09/23/18 09:41 PM
SMA - Krown previously, Fluid Film Application
by StevieC. 09/23/18 09:21 PM
First Paint Correction
by RayCJ. 09/23/18 08:33 PM
2011 Dodge Caliber
by dogememe. 09/23/18 07:48 PM
Mixing transmission fluids - partial change
by spk2000. 09/23/18 07:31 PM
Counterfeit MANN filter???
by IllinoisSparky. 09/23/18 06:54 PM
The smell of an oil: VME adds?
by fdcg27. 09/23/18 06:48 PM
Classic road brake pads
by buck91. 09/23/18 06:18 PM
Newest Members
Lilshady, SevenDu, sigpro, RayCJ, yellow97tt6spd
66055 Registered Users
Who's Online Now
68 registered members (Bailes1992, Best F100, aquariuscsm, BeerCan, Boomer, Atesz792, 8 invisible), 1,120 guests, and 41 spiders.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Statistics
Forums67
Topics290,929
Posts4,852,605
Members66,055
Most Online3,590
Jan 24th, 2017
Donate to BITOG
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Hop To
Page 1 of 3 1 2 3
Break-in for new vehicles #4020136
02/23/16 09:43 PM
02/23/16 09:43 PM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 326
california
powayroger Offline OP
powayroger  Offline OP
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 326
california
So Iím looking at either the Chevy Traverse or Hyundai Santa Fe (Leaning here).

Breaking period, no heavy throttle use or slamming the brakes for the first 2500 miles, but what about the oil change? I tend to change at the 1000-mile mark, but when I bought the wifeís Hyundai Elantra in 2011, the dealer told me that they used a special breaking oil and that I should go 5000 miles before changing that (I change the oil after a 2000-mile trip to Salt Lake City with 2640 miles on it). Think that is true? Also, when to go full synthetic? I normally start at the 5000-mile mark.

Yes, these things are important to me because I tend to keep my vehicles for a long time and think that the break-in period is critical to this long lasting effort.

I appreciate your comments and look forward in hearing them.


2011 Hyundai Elantra GLS Auto
2016 Honda Pilot LX
Synthetic oil, Tufoil and Marvel Mystery Oil fan
Re: Break-in for new vehicles [Re: powayroger] #4020144
02/23/16 09:48 PM
02/23/16 09:48 PM
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 2,643
Cincinnati
Chris Meutsch Offline
Chris Meutsch  Offline
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 2,643
Cincinnati
Are financials important as well? I know that the Traverse is a bit older design and perhaps the dealer has incentives to clear out 2015's cheaply. My brother in law has a 2011 and it's been pretty solid. He got it certified used in 2013.


2005 Honda CR-V EX, 263k
Re: Break-in for new vehicles [Re: powayroger] #4020146
02/23/16 09:50 PM
02/23/16 09:50 PM
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 18,730
PNW
ZeeOSix Offline
ZeeOSix  Offline
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 18,730
PNW
Not sure if any car manufacturer uses special "break-in oil" these days or not. IMO, 5,000 miles on the engine before going full synthetic is a good point to do so.

During break-in, you do want to get on the engine pretty good now and then after some miles are put on it so you seat the rings in well. Just do short bursts of heavy throttle and don't rev too high ... just don't get nuts. Engines that are broken in with some of that treatment seem to break-in better and not use oil down the road. I broke in my Tacoma V6 pretty hard and it doesn't use any oil to speak of between 5K oil changes and runs super strong. Went to full synthetic Mobil 1 at 5K miles on that truck. Also changed oil at 1K and then again at 5K, and that's when the Mobil 1 went in.

Re: Break-in for new vehicles [Re: Chris Meutsch] #4020156
02/23/16 09:57 PM
02/23/16 09:57 PM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 326
california
powayroger Offline OP
powayroger  Offline OP
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 326
california
There is a Buick mechanic in this group that states that the traverse has engine and transmission problems. Iím trying to steer the wife away from it, but she likes the added storage room.


2011 Hyundai Elantra GLS Auto
2016 Honda Pilot LX
Synthetic oil, Tufoil and Marvel Mystery Oil fan
Re: Break-in for new vehicles [Re: powayroger] #4020162
02/23/16 10:06 PM
02/23/16 10:06 PM
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 9,808
New Jersey
crazyoildude Offline
crazyoildude  Offline
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 9,808
New Jersey
Santa fe is a better vehicle with a much better warranty than the Chevy.. I have seen a bunch of problems with that chevy engine and besides the Santa Fe is a nicer vehicle although Hyundai is not cheap anymore. As for break in on todays engines there is not much to do except drive it like you always do.. I break my engines in hard to seat the rings and have done that for years. I always told people when we did a rebuild on their engine to break it in the usual way you drive but dont drive it like you stole it until there is a couple of hundred miles on the engine


Check To See That The Oil Jugs You Buy Have The Exact Amount Of Oil In Them And Have An Inner Seal Under The Cap. I Use Mobil 1 And Fram Ultra Filters
Re: Break-in for new vehicles [Re: powayroger] #4020163
02/23/16 10:07 PM
02/23/16 10:07 PM
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 30,443
NY
demarpaint Offline
demarpaint  Offline
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 30,443
NY
Originally Posted By: powayroger
There is a Buick mechanic in this group that states that the traverse has engine and transmission problems. Iím trying to steer the wife away from it, but she likes the added storage room.


Yes. He brought up some good points here: http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/4019269/Searchpage/1/Main/249510/Words/demarpaint/Search/true/Re:_2012_Chevy_Traverse#Post4019269


God Bless Our Troops

Re: Break-in for new vehicles [Re: powayroger] #4020164
02/23/16 10:07 PM
02/23/16 10:07 PM
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 5,273
In the Garage...
ls1mike Offline
ls1mike  Offline
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 5,273
In the Garage...
How to break your cars in...or at least how I do it for mine.

Break in smile


Mike
00 Trans Am WS6 5.7 LS1
02 Silverado 2500HD 6.0
14 Caprice PPV 6.0
15 Malibu LTZ Turbo
12 Passport TT
Re: Break-in for new vehicles [Re: powayroger] #4020204
02/23/16 11:06 PM
02/23/16 11:06 PM
Joined: Oct 2014
Posts: 588
On the road Midwest
Ihatetochangeoil Offline
Ihatetochangeoil  Offline
Joined: Oct 2014
Posts: 588
On the road Midwest
The main objective in initial oil changes on a new vehicle is to facilitate the removal of harmful manufacturing and break-in debris for those interested in long engine life.

Mr. Jim Fitch, founder of Noria Corp. has authored a book "How to select an Oil and Filter for your Car or Truck" The above statement is from page 43. http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=How+to+select+an+oil+and+filter+for+your+car+or+truck

Table 13 on this same page Mr. Fitch outlines his RECOMMENDATIONS for the first few oil changes: 1st oil change within 100 miles of taking possession of the vehicle; 2nd oil change 1500 miles after 1st change, 3rd oil change 3K miles after 2nd, 4th and beyond at normal intervals. Go synthetic at 4th change.

I would guess that the stealership would love you for doing this, since, after purchase, THEIR favorite place for your vehicle to be is on the rack in THEIR service dept. You said you were looking for comments; I gave advice from someone I believe to be much more knowledgeable than myself or anyone on this board. Do what you wish. Good luck and congrats on your purchase, hope you're happy in a couple of years.



2003 Lesabre
2004 Lesabre
2004 Impala
If ur NOT doing UOA then you're throwing away good oil or your engine is already damaged. Choose.
Re: Break-in for new vehicles [Re: powayroger] #4020235
02/24/16 12:07 AM
02/24/16 12:07 AM
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 2,191
VA
bvance554 Offline
bvance554  Offline
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 2,191
VA
You're not going to find a correct answer on this. Just do what feels right to you. It probably won't make any difference in the long term maintenance of your vehicle.

Re: Break-in for new vehicles [Re: powayroger] #4020242
02/24/16 12:15 AM
02/24/16 12:15 AM
Joined: Mar 2014
Posts: 3,268
NJ
Leo99 Offline
Leo99  Offline
Joined: Mar 2014
Posts: 3,268
NJ
I don't do anything special to break in my cars. I almost always drive them gently.


Without data you're just another person with an opinion. W. E. Deming

2003 Corolla 250,000 miles
2004 Rav4 359,000 miles
2015 Camry 59,000 miles
Re: Break-in for new vehicles [Re: powayroger] #4020305
02/24/16 05:37 AM
02/24/16 05:37 AM
Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 867
Central Coast California
RedOakRanch Offline
RedOakRanch  Offline
Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 867
Central Coast California
I went with a high load mid rpm break in and made sure I got some good compression breaking in on my 2016 Outback as soon as I left the dealer. I changed out the FF at 800 miles and had it analyzed but found there were no elevated wear metals. Probably safe to run the FF a lot longer even though I'd still change it out early. No oil burning yet on my 2.5 Limited with has had problems in the last few years!


1994 Ford Crown Vic 207k-Frankenbrew 0w20,30,40!
2005 Chevy 1500 Crewcab 4X4 180k-BC 0w30 $2/qt
2016 Outback 2.5 Limited 60k-shop brand?
Re: Break-in for new vehicles [Re: powayroger] #4020317
02/24/16 07:11 AM
02/24/16 07:11 AM
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 6,367
Midwest
Pop_Rivit Offline
Pop_Rivit  Offline
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 6,367
Midwest
It's a car, just get in and drive normally. Don't do anything stupid for the first few hundred miles. Just change the fluids on schedule-the idea of "manufacturing" debris floating around inside a new engine is nonsense; if there were anything large enough to cause any issues it would be caught by the filter.

Re: Break-in for new vehicles [Re: powayroger] #4020319
02/24/16 07:13 AM
02/24/16 07:13 AM
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 3,226
Central Virginia
Silverado12 Offline
Silverado12  Offline
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 3,226
Central Virginia
FWIW the dealer changed my oil in my 2015 Cruze at 2,500 miles just before I bought it. I would not go 5,000 miles on break-in oil. In fact, I do all my cars I buy new before 1,000 to take a look at the oil and filter. If it doesn't look glittery (some engines do, some don't) then I go until 3,000 miles and do it again. Then from there go your normal intervals.


12 Chevy Silverado ext. cab LS, 2WD 4.3 auto
18 Mustang GT 5.0 auto
07 Harley Dyna Street Bob 96 c.i. 6 sp.
00 Mustang GT auto
Re: Break-in for new vehicles [Re: powayroger] #4020324
02/24/16 07:38 AM
02/24/16 07:38 AM
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 9,801
Florida, Cape Coral
Eddie Online sleepy
Eddie  Online Sleepy
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 9,801
Florida, Cape Coral
I drive my new vehicles without any special treatment. I don't drive especially gentle nor hard. Some heavy throttle for several seconds, helps to seat rings. I leave the factory fill in for at least 3,000 miles because I believe the assembly lubricants are needed to prevent any scuffing and assist in burnishing sliding parts. Quality oil filters are there to prevent any engine damage. Ed


CX5 Touring 2.5L :-)
Re: Break-in for new vehicles [Re: powayroger] #4020357
02/24/16 08:34 AM
02/24/16 08:34 AM
Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 1,254
South Central PA
Delta Offline
Delta  Offline
Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 1,254
South Central PA
I might get flack for this, but when I bought the Camry last April I haven't been afraid to drive it since it had 30mi off the lot. Not abuse, but not afraid to let into it. I live in a valley, so to get out of town you have to go up a steep mountain for a couple miles. Slap it in sport and let it rip. Going with the factory recommended 10K oil change; they don't deem it necessary to change it early. They designed it, who am I to say any different? No noticeable oil consumption in 9K miles.


'17 VW GTI 2.0T - 6MT - 9K - Edge 0w40
'15 Camry SE - 2.5 - 20K - PP 0w20
'99 S10 - 2.2 5MT - 155K - T6 0w40
Page 1 of 3 1 2 3

BOB IS THE OIL GUY® Powered by UBB.threads™