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#3392375 - 06/08/14 05:51 PM z max
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Does anyone know if this stuff really works, is it just another snake oil additive that claims to clean carbon from your engine and soak into the metal parts to micro lube parts but is just baby oil ?

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#3392430 - 06/08/14 07:00 PM Re: z max [Re: built]
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Loc: NE,Ohio
snake oil.
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#3392465 - 06/08/14 07:25 PM Re: z max [Re: Rand]
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Quote:
Does anyone know if this stuff really works, is it just another snake oil additive that claims to clean carbon from your engine and soak into the metal parts to micro lube parts but is just baby oil ?


There is no valid scientific evidence that it does either.


Edited by MolaKule (06/08/14 07:27 PM)
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#3392471 - 06/08/14 07:33 PM Re: z max [Re: built]
Errtt Offline


Registered: 11/14/10
Posts: 2617
Loc: California
Use a good oil and change oil/filter and forget the z max

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#3392489 - 06/08/14 07:54 PM Re: z max [Re: built]
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Loc: California
Actually, after the 2001/2003 Federal lawsuit, they re-formulated zmax and re-tested it with independent scientists and it did what they claimed. Read the full text on the FTC sight.


Edited by loyd (06/08/14 08:06 PM)

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#3392490 - 06/08/14 07:54 PM Re: z max [Re: built]
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Registered: 02/15/07
Posts: 2075
Loc: Los Angeles, California
Don't bother!!!!Check out the FTC website about this
I was wondering about XANO which is advertised in car magazines for a long time

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#3392501 - 06/08/14 08:10 PM Re: z max [Re: built]
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Tried it, didn't see any noticeable improvements.
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#3392504 - 06/08/14 08:13 PM Re: z max [Re: built]
loyd Offline


Registered: 08/30/12
Posts: 144
Loc: California
Durango, do you mean ZAINO?

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#3392557 - 06/08/14 09:16 PM Re: z max [Re: loyd]
Durango Offline


Registered: 02/15/07
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Loc: Los Angeles, California
Originally Posted By: loyd
Durango, do you mean ZAINO?


loyd,

Sorry I meant XADO "anti wear engine" treatment.

Durango

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#3392566 - 06/08/14 09:26 PM Re: z max [Re: built]
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Registered: 11/11/10
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Loc: Saskatoon canada
I'm an open minded individual so over the years I've tried pretty much everything once.
If the stuff didn't help fuel economy I never bought it again.
Mos2 is the only product I've used that I can repeatably improve fuel consumption when I use it.
So I don't bother with anything else anymore,other than ceratec and I use ceratec first for its anti-wear properties then mos2 for the fuel economy gain.
In 4 cylinder engines I've not been able to note any noticeable fuel consumption benefit however on v6 and v8 engines I can,so to each there own.
This xado stuff might work however I won't be trying it,not when mos2 costs 8 bucks a can,and works.
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#3392621 - 06/08/14 10:51 PM Re: z max [Re: Rand]
dave5358 Offline


Registered: 04/25/13
Posts: 669
Loc: North Bend
Originally Posted By: Rand
snake oil.

Not sure about the snake but it's 99% oil.
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#3392794 - 06/09/14 08:05 AM Re: z max [Re: built]
badtlc Offline


Registered: 06/08/06
Posts: 5071
Loc: KC
There is a guy on this forum running it in his diesel and really likes the stuff.

A very well respected member on this forum (Johnny, might be gone now) was very well educated on zmax and said it was a good product.

Like previously said in this thread, Zmax had to get some of its claims validated to a certain extent in the court of law and did so. Their products are not snake oil but I don't think any product like this will provide you enough benefits to really blow your mind.
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#3392904 - 06/09/14 10:12 AM Re: z max [Re: badtlc]
dave5358 Offline


Registered: 04/25/13
Posts: 669
Loc: North Bend
Originally Posted By: badtlc
There is a guy on this forum running it in his diesel and really likes the stuff. A very well respected member on this forum (Johnny, might be gone now) was very well educated on zmax and said it was a good product.

Like previously said in this thread, Zmax had to get some of its claims validated to a certain extent in the court of law and did so. Their products are not snake oil but I don't think any product like this will provide you enough benefits to really blow your mind.

Okay, but what's in it to make it special? According to the MSDS, it is >99% mineral oil. There's nothing wrong with that, but you might use TCW3 or a host of other products that are primarily mineral oil. Since the manufacturer says you can add it to oil or fuel, that limits some of the possible mystery ingredients that might be used.

It really sounds like a close cousin of MMO... except that it's 6 times the price and not as readily available.
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#3393494 - 06/09/14 09:34 PM Re: z max [Re: built]
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#3393523 - 06/09/14 09:58 PM Re: z max [Re: built]
Durango Offline


Registered: 02/15/07
Posts: 2075
Loc: Los Angeles, California
mikered30,

If I remember the FTC's final conclusion....zMAX was nothing more than some sort of refined "mineral oil" and that's all.
They were also ordered by the court to redefine all the claims they made because of the testing.

Personally if that's the case then I'd rather try XADO product instead but the other side of me tells me to be cautious. If the claims are too good then it;s too good to be true.

Durango

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