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Re: hy-per lube zinc replacement additive [Re: MolaKule] #2791846 11/03/12 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted By: MolaKule
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There is one oil mfg that's using these esters with PAO and has no ZDDP whatsoever.

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So that nameless company is using something similar to this additive to eliminate the use of a different anti-wear compound.




It is no secret.


Do a search on "FUCHS."


Mola; is this what is in their Titan GT1 XTL 0W-20 brew??


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Re: hy-per lube zinc replacement additive [Re: DanMiller] #2791870 11/03/12 03:14 PM
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Let's just say FUCH's and AK have had a long history of cooperation.


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Re: hy-per lube zinc replacement additive [Re: MolaKule] #2792044 11/03/12 05:36 PM
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Who / what is AK ?

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Re: hy-per lube zinc replacement additive [Re: DanMiller] #2792225 11/03/12 09:10 PM
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I am guessing that this stuff wouldn't be good for motorcycles with wet clutches.

Re: hy-per lube zinc replacement additive [Re: DanMiller] #2793880 11/05/12 06:28 PM
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Who / what is AK ?


AKZO chemical company, the producers/marketers of Ket Jen Lube polymetric ester products.


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Re: hy-per lube zinc replacement additive [Re: DanMiller] #2805909 11/17/12 10:57 PM
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I was looking at the hyper-lube zinc replacement MSDS, and it says that the freezing point is <-20C (-4F).

What happens if this stuff is mixed with regular 5w-30 oil when the temperatures drop below the freezing point? Does it stay in suspension, rise to the surface, sink to the bottom, or something else? Could it plug up the oil screen? I would think that once it gets to the oil pump gears, the mechanical force of the gears would raise the oil above its freezing point.

Re: hy-per lube zinc replacement additive [Re: DanMiller] #2812856 11/24/12 07:49 PM
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Being a polymer ester it is very miscible which means goes into suspension and stays there.

It does not appreciably affect the oil's viscosity at cold temps.

Here is a way to show yourself this works. Put about 2.5 oz. of Hyperlube in a quart of 5W30 oil. Bring it inside and mix it. Set it ouside and compare it to a non-additized quart of 5W30 oil, same manf.

Tell us what you see.


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Re: hy-per lube zinc replacement additive [Re: DanMiller] #2814681 11/26/12 01:03 PM
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I wonder what is the actual VI of this stuff??


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Re: hy-per lube zinc replacement additive [Re: DanMiller] #3587153 01/03/15 06:15 PM
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1pt in with 3qts M1 0w-20EP in thee geo the last service.

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Re: hy-per lube zinc replacement additive [Re: DanMiller] #3587599 01/04/15 04:14 AM
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I just re-read this thread. I'm significantly more interested in this stuff.


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Re: hy-per lube zinc replacement additive [Re: Clevy] #3587638 01/04/15 05:57 AM
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I just re-read this thread. I'm significantly more interested in this stuff.


Yes, I just re-read it myself. May use this or Lubegard next time.

When I put LubeGard BioTech in my new to me Saturn SC2 with 156,000 miles, I noticed a definitive "freeing up" of the engine. It's hard to explain, but it was almost like revving up the engine in Neutral vs revving it up in gear, if you know what I mean??


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Re: hy-per lube zinc replacement additive [Re: DanMiller] #3587740 01/04/15 09:09 AM
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I used it in few flat tappet engines, I used the Red-line BI add too. Both seemed OK, RL was easier for me to get though.-RD

Re: hy-per lube zinc replacement additive [Re: DanMiller] #3588462 01/04/15 08:54 PM
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^^^Yes, this product has disappeared from the shelf at Pep Boyzz, but it is still on the Vato Zone shelves.


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Re: hy-per lube zinc replacement additive [Re: dailydriver] #3588588 01/04/15 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted By: dailydriver
I wonder what is the actual VI of this stuff??


It's about 229.


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Re: hy-per lube zinc replacement additive [Re: MolaKule] #3588599 01/04/15 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted By: MolaKule
Being a polymer ester it is very miscible which means goes into suspension and stays there.

It does not appreciably affect the oil's viscosity at cold temps.

Here is a way to show yourself this works. Put about 2.5 oz. of Hyperlube in a quart of 5W30 oil. Bring it inside and mix it. Set it ouside and compare it to a non-additized quart of 5W30 oil, same manf.

Tell us what you see.



I may try this. I have some gsud in clear bottles. Now i know that in older posts you have suggested that with schaeffers 132, you only need 5 or so ounces as an antiwear. How much of this is necessary? They suggest a quart with 4-5 quarts.


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