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UOA article - how Blackstone processes UOAs #2498871
01/19/12 05:40 AM
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For those interested in how a UOA is done at Blackstone, please refer to the article on the main home page.

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/used-oil-analysis-2/

Last edited by dnewton3; 01/23/13 05:45 AM.

The act of preventative maintenance, in and of itself, is FAR MORE important than brand/grade/base choices among lubes and filters.
- under maintaining something is akin to abuse/neglect; that can kill equipment by shortening the lifespan
- over maintaining something has never been proven to be anything but a waste of time and money
Re: UOA article [Re: dnewton3] #2498880
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Very cool and thank you for the article!

Re: UOA article [Re: dnewton3] #2498912
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Fantastic article - written well. thumbsup

I hope my UOA is done today!


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Re: UOA article [Re: dnewton3] #2498916
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Dave,

Thank you for braving the bad weather to drive to Blackstone to write this article!

Wayne

Re: UOA article [Re: dnewton3] #2498918
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Good stuff. Now you can understand why zero um is the bottom limit for detected metal size.


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Re: UOA article [Re: Pablo] #2498941
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its articles like this that makes BITOG the motor oil authority smile


Re: UOA article [Re: dnewton3] #2498971
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Awesome article. I never looked into how they get all the data, so this was interesting to me. Thanks! thumbsup


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Re: UOA article [Re: dnewton3] #2499006
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Wonder what people will say to their calibration/validation every day.

Re: UOA article [Re: dnewton3] #2499422
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Nice to see the process behind the results.

Thanks Dave for your time and efforts; I was in Chicago a few days ago, so I know that you did indeed brave the weather in Indiana...


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Re: UOA article [Re: dnewton3] #2499515
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Very nice. Professional quality stuff, hope B_S keeps growing in their endeavors.


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Re: UOA article [Re: dnewton3] #2751391
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Very awesome.. good stuff

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I am curious; when I send the oil to them, what can they find without me telling? Can they identify original viscosity, manufacturer etc?

Re: UOA article [Re: dnewton3] #3013957
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Getting around to viewing many of the articles written here, and I must say: brilliant research and article writing! I think I'll grab a UOA test kit ahead of my next OCI (never done it before, but considering my 99 Dodge Ram has 219500 on the odo, it's time). Thanks for the article, definitely well-worth my time smile


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Re: UOA article - how Blackstone processes UOAs [Re: dnewton3] #3015902
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thanks for this now that I'm changing my own oil I plan on getting one of these done to see how the engine is doing

Re: UOA article - how Blackstone processes UOAs [Re: oilotaku] #3245620
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Just wanted to say that this company is one of the best I have ever worked with. Could not ask for nicer people.


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Re: UOA article - how Blackstone processes UOAs [Re: dnewton3] #3830553
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Just a thought (and sort of a message to Blackstone) but have you ever considered adding Sulphur to the list of things you quote on your VOA/UOA reports? If, as I suspect, you are running these oils through ICP, then you should get the answer for 'free' so why not report it?
Sulphur is one of those important elements that formulators always look out for, for all sorts of reasons. You obviously get it from ZDDP. You get it from sulphonates and phenates and other additives. You can get it from base oil (maybe not so much these days in the US but elsewhere in the world, definitely). Also sulphur is the 'S' in SAP so it's important to know what the number is from that perspective.

Re: UOA article - how Blackstone processes UOAs [Re: dnewton3] #4049076
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All the information about how they do it, and what they do in the oil analysis is interesting. Where is the order form?

Re: UOA article - how Blackstone processes UOAs [Re: dnewton3] #4952768
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Bump with question. Maybe I misread, but it sounds from this write up like they test low temp and high temp viscosites, but the reports I’ve seen show “cst viscosity” at 100 degrees Celsius and “SUS viscosity” at 212 degree Fahrenheit. These are the same actual temp, so sounds like it’s just a different scale they are measuring on (cst vs SUS). I haven’t analyzed / compared various reports, but I found conversion formulas and tables, so all readings that show cst of 10.0, for example, would show the same SUS reading, 58.8 for this example, if I am reading correctly. Are they showing both SUS and CST just for convenience, because some customers may be used to one vs the other? I was actually hoping they were measuring at 2 different temperatures. That would be useful, and is what pds’s show, right?

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