Quite possibly. A 36% overfill condition is certainly enough to consider it.Might the level get high enough to cause windage and other issues associated with overfilling?
Quite possibly. A 36% overfill condition is certainly enough to consider it.Might the level get high enough to cause windage and other issues associated with overfilling?
I have a hard time taking complaints seriously when they don’t even know the correct oil capacity for their cars (it’s 3.7 not 3.3)Again, a complaint cut and pasted from Overkill's link:
"Have excess oil dilution in 1.5L engine. After 7,500 miles, oil level increased by 1.2 quarts to 4.5 quarts for a 3.3 qt. capacity engine. Afraid oil dilution is changing the oil viscosity and will cause undue wear. Had the Honda product update, doesn't help."
In this instance alone we are looking at a fuel dilution factor of over 36%, (36.363%).
Why you even come to BITOG, seems like you got your owners manual, you trust the engineers and life is good?. What else are you trying to accomplish here? You wanted proof, several people provided references, nothing will be good enough for you.Found any engine damage yet? Funny how seemingly all modern DI engines have fuel dilution, maybe just maybe oil design and engines are good enough where it doesn’t practically matter.
There’s plenty to learn here that’s actually fact and is backed up with photos and data, I just have to dig through all of the conspiraciesWhy you even come to BITOG, seems like you got your owners manual, you trust the engineers and life is good?. What else are you trying to accomplish here? You wanted proof, several people provided references, nothing will be good enough for you.
Several people provided facts why fuel dilution damages engines and increases wear. You will not likely find a documented case where fuel dilution caused the damage. its often difficult to pinpoint exactly why engine failed without proper oil analysis and inspection. Often these engines just get swapped without being opened. A lot of after market engine rebuilders do not do this level of investigation. If Honda knows about these failures, they will not be making a public announcement for obvious reasons. Even if somebody had an engine failure, you would say “prove its from fuel dilution and not something else”. Like I said before, if you already made up your mind, it’s pointless to argue.There’s plenty to learn here that’s actually fact and is backed up with photos and data, I just have to dig through all of the conspiracies
Part 1 Doesn't even make sense. Part 2 What does the Levant have to do with urban American driving? Next.Absolutely, go right ahead and chuck those tires in the trash; you'll feel so warm and fuzzy inside, you may even poop rainbows that smell like cotton candy.
Once you've operated a fleet of motor vehicles in the Middle East for 25 years, we can grab a beer.
He's still having a difficult time buying into the fact that smoking and asbestos cause cancer.Why you even come to BITOG, seems like you got your owners manual, you trust the engineers and life is good?. What else are you trying to accomplish here? You wanted proof, several people provided references, nothing will be good enough for you.
Does this sound anything like urban American driving?What does the Levant have to do with urban American driving?
Clearly not.Excessive ambient temperatures (125+ °F), extremely dusty operating conditions ... poor fuel quality.
About how long can an air filter be expected to last out there? I'm talking about the standard OEM paper pleated replacement from any of the major brands.Once you've operated a fleet of motor vehicles in the Middle East for 25 years, we can grab a beer.
Engineers AND doctors here. What a goldmine of knowledgeHe's still having a difficult time buying into the fact that smoking and asbestos cause cancer.
Dude, no engine fuel dilutes like the Honda 1.5, why are you having such a hard time understanding that? Yes, most (not all) DI mills produce some fuel dilution, but the Honda 1.5L is in a league of its own, hence the lawsuits, recalls, stop sale...etc. What engines from other manufacturers are "making oil" to the point they are stalling and the vehicle needs to be towed?Found any engine damage yet? Funny how seemingly all modern DI engines have fuel dilution, maybe just maybe oil design and engines are good enough where it doesn’t practically matter. But every parrot with a tinfoil hat here has a hardon for Honda 1.5s
Yes I totally trust it now. If China does it or says it, must be 100% legitthe Chinese government just arbitrarily issuing a stop sale because everything is fine and dandy?
Jesus Christ guy, you are something else.Yes I totally trust it now. If China does it or says it, must be 100% legit
Yawn, Ignore the important part of the argument and pick out one pedantic detail as if it really invalidates the entire argument.Yes I totally trust it now. If China does it or says it, must be 100% legit
Reading bitog while waiting for oil to change.....don't do it.Cleaning out your garage...... "I can find everything I need, so why mess with it?"
You can definitely be assured that engines are easier on oil now vs then. The move from carburetors to fuel injection alone extended the life of engine oil not to forget that oils are far superior to back then. Engines running at first start with a choke is about as inefficient as it comes. Raw/rich fuel past the rings and into the crankcase was a given.I have a different belief. I believe that oil(lubricants/fuels), engines, emissions, fuel economy, power, quality and on & on, have indeed changed a great deal in the last 50-60 years. It's called progress!
He is correct on the sludge/varnish part of the comment...UOAs aren't telling you what your engine looks like inside.Sir - you are mistaken.
UOAs (depending on service) may offer info like oxidation, soot, or insolubles. Those are direct parameters indicating how "dirty or overwhelmed the oil is". UOAs can indicate if the oil is lightly or heavily loaded with other contamination such as fuel, coolant, silica as well. UOAs can show us how much base (TBN) is active which can help understand the ability to clean (in the case of Ca and Mg).
I don't know where your viewpoint comes from, but it needs to be adjusted because your statement if flat out wrong.