why do red light tickets not go on record?

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Originally Posted by vw7674
In washington state, they block the plate's next registration/renewal.

Yep.. they'll do that for unpaid parking tickets also. I should know, it happened to me years ago.
 
Originally Posted by rooflessVW
Because they're a scam. A money grab. Illegal.

I got one and my lawyer told me to throw it in the trash, and keep throwing them in the trash
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First off who calls/pays for a lawyers time over a red light ticket?.. anywho. I find it hard to believe that an attorney would give that kind of advice but whatever... makes for a good story I guess.

Fwiw, you might want to pull a copy of your credit report and/or driving record. All those crumpled up tickets you've been throwing away may come back to haunt you....
 
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Originally Posted by WhyMe
in my state of Wa, red light ticket do not go on one record. of course every state is different, but i always wondered why they don't go on ones driving record. Seems like just a money grab then

Kinda left out the important word "camera" ?

They aren't traffic tickets, they're civil violations.
 
Originally Posted by Mad_Hatter
Originally Posted by rooflessVW
Because they're a scam. A money grab. Illegal.

I got one and my lawyer told me to throw it in the trash, and keep throwing them in the trash
.

First off who calls/pays for a lawyers time over a red light ticket?.. anywho. I find it hard to believe that an attorney would give that kind of advice but whatever... makes for a good story I guess.

Fwiw, you might want to pull a copy of your credit report and/or driving record. All those crumpled up tickets you've been throwing away may come back to haunt you....

You can choose to believe whatever you'd like.

My credit is fine, and there is nothing on my driving record. The tickets are trash and they belong in the trash. I got flashed once and I was notified three times, with the "fine" increasing each time. This was over a year ago.
 
Originally Posted by rooflessVW
My credit is fine, and there is nothing on my driving record. The tickets are trash and they belong in the trash. I got flashed once and I was notified three times, with the "fine" increasing each time. This was over a year ago.


Camera tickets go against the car, no way to know who the driver is, hence no impact to your credit or driving record. But I suspect you will be in for a surprise when it comes time to renew car registration.
 
In WA state the same thing happens with tolls. Go through without a sticker and the camera takes a picture of your license plate. Unpaid fines accrue high interest.

When registration time comes, good luck.
 
Originally Posted by PimTac
In WA state the same thing happens with tolls. Go through without a sticker and the camera takes a picture of your license plate. Unpaid fines accrue high interest.

When registration time comes, good luck.

Yep.. apparently jurisdictions in WA State put some bite behind the bark, compared to where Roofless lives it seems.
 
Where I live.....They can/will block you from renewing your registration at Grocery Stores over red light tickets. I go downtown & get it done with no issues!

I file all automated red light tickets in trash can where they belong!
 
Originally Posted by atikovi
Originally Posted by rooflessVW
My credit is fine, and there is nothing on my driving record. The tickets are trash and they belong in the trash. I got flashed once and I was notified three times, with the "fine" increasing each time. This was over a year ago.

Camera tickets go against the car, no way to know who the driver is, hence no impact to your credit or driving record. But I suspect you will be in for a surprise when it comes time to renew car registration.

Suspect all you like. It's actually been slightly longer than I thought, because I got the ticket in my Volvo. That's two tag transfers and one renewal ago.
 
State by state list of traffic cam laws. In my State, state law allows for treating traffic cam evidence as either a minor infraction akin to a parking ticket or as a moving violation. It gets a little complicated (jurisdiction/municipality dependent) reading the RCW (revised code of WA) in re traffic cams - like does the infraction follow the vehicle or the registered owner? (in some instances it follows the RO). So don't throw those traffic cam tickets in the rubbish before you address it, at least not in WA State.

https://traffic.findlaw.com/traffic-tickets/state-traffic-camera-restrictions.html
 
Originally Posted by rooflessVW

Suspect all you like. It's actually been slightly longer than I thought, because I got the ticket in my Volvo. That's two tag transfers and one renewal ago.

And that's awesome for you but not everyone lives in your neck of the woods. So go on with your red light running bad self....
 
Florida condo law apparently allows 'the Association' to issue ($100) summonses to unit owners when their babysitter, tenant, pizza delivery boy etc...speeds (20 mph limit in some sections). They turn off your transponders if you don't pay. It's real kangaroo court stuff...and if you have any doubt as to whether it's a money grab or safety issue...they exempt UPS, FedEx etc....
 
As a friend in Australia once said when the subject of "simply ignoring" a small traffic fine came up....

"You aren't going to get in trouble here but your rent-a-car in Germany might get blocked 3 years from now."

FACT: People seem to always say, "I just throw 'em away".
NOBODY ever admits to getting caught then having to jump through hoops and pay an increased fine.
 
Originally Posted by PimTac
In WA state the same thing happens with tolls. Go through without a sticker and the camera takes a picture of your license plate. Unpaid fines accrue high interest.

When registration time comes, good luck.


^^Same with Texas^^



All of the Red Light Photo Cameras in Fort Worth have been deactivated.

I've never received a notice..... though I have been flashed DOZENS of times - - all while STOPPED!
 
No red light cameras in Michigan. A 2015 law was enacted to preclude automated traffic citations. The bill cited the nonsense and abuse from other states using this technology.
 
Originally Posted by Kestas
No red light cameras in Michigan. A 2015 law was enacted to preclude automated traffic citations. The bill cited the nonsense and abuse from other states using this technology.

When it's obviously a money grab....as the example in my earlier post indicates...an honest judge would rule it out.....but unfortunately too many judges today are part of the game....their pensions and ‘benefits' depend on the ‘income'....
 
I didn't go through every comment, but since I sit in on these that come up for hearings, I will explain how they work here.

You won't receive a violation unless the light is red before you enter the intersection. We have an officer (with training, obviously) review the video and can slow it down to frame by frame. If the light it red and you haven't gone over the stop line, that's a violation. It's as clear as day. Given yellow lights are at least 3.5 (arrows) and 4.5 (through traffic) seconds, that's plenty of time to stop. I've seen hundreds of hearings on these and it's a simple answer - Were you across the stop line when the light turned red?

This is considered a vehicular violation because there's no way to know who was driving. It's like a parking ticket. If you don't pay, the fines escalate and they'll put a stop on the plate renewal. The "stop" happened to me once because I forgot to have the emissions test on my car. Frustrating, but that's about the last fence you can be stopped at.

These videos do become very helpful when the intersection has an accident. These are often requested by insurance companies and law firms, so there is some good use that comes out of them. I'm in full agreement that the main purpose of the cameras is revenue. In my area's case, they don't want to raise the revenue required by taxing. The cameras help fill the gap. If we know anything in Illinois, it's how to make government expensive.

FWIW, we've had them locally for a long time. I have yet to receive a citation. Why? Because I stop when it's required. It's not that hard. The heck if I'm giving $100 (whatever their cut is) to my local municipality. They are already getting enough.
 
The reason red-light tickets don't go on your record it's because your vehicle went through the red light.
Just because it was your vehicle it doesn't mean you were driving but you are responsible for your vehicle same as if it was in an accident be careful who you lend it to or let drive it.
I'm not sure why people oppose enforcing the law.
 
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In WA State it could, along with not being able to renew registration, keep you from being able to transfer the title ("dirty title"), just depends if the issuing jurisdiction has reported to the DMV. Like I mentioned in my previous post, the State law here regarding traffic cams gives a lot of leeway to local jurisdictions on how they pursue offenders.

Guess the moral of the story is don't make a habit of trying to beat the light and you shouldn't have much to worry about...regardless if they happen to be a source of revenue for a municipality.
 
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