Who makes BMW's "store brand" oil?

[BMWTurboDzl]

Britain IS a country in Europe. No longer a EU member but still Europe.
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Funny you mention that. Decades ago I was chastised in jest by an Englishman for suggesting that the UK was part of Europe. In the US publications typically treat UK separate from what is commonly called Continental Europe.

 

[Eugenius]

Britain IS a country in Europe. No longer a EU member but still Europe.
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Everyone knows after BREXIT it is nominal, just geographically yes, but in the minds not very much. So the mistake is understandable

 

[Bailes1992]

Everyone knows after BREXIT it is nominal, just geographically yes, but in the minds not very much. So the mistake is understandable

Europe is a continent.

The European Union was a free trade agreement that got out of hand.

 

[930.engineering]

Funny you mention that. Decades ago I was chastised in jest by an Englishman for suggesting that the UK was part of Europe.
In the US publications typically treat UK separate from what is commonly called Continental Europe.

That's exactly why what I mentioned.

Europe is a continent.
The European Union was a free trade agreement that got out of hand.

Yes, Europe is a continent.
Norway, Iceland, Switzerland and most of former Yugoslavia
aren't EU members, but no one wouldn't call them European.

 

[svenson]

Funny you mention that. Decades ago I was chastised in jest by an Englishman for suggesting that the UK was part of Europe. In the US publications typically treat UK separate from what is commonly called Continental Europe.

Everyone knows after BREXIT it is nominal, just geographically yes, but in the minds not very much. So the mistake is understandable

i think most of other european countries think of Britain as a country which leans more in US way of thinking .

 

[930.engineering]

i think most of other european countries think of Britain as a country which leans more in US way of thinking.

Does it? I see tremendous differences between the UK and Murica . . . .
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[burbguy82]

of course, just because they make it does not mean it is the same.

 

[svenson]

of course, but even more differences between UK and other european countries,than between UK and US.
that is what i meant.

 

[bigjl]

Yes, I understood your statements.
You claimed BMW only cared about owners with cars under warranty. That is clearly not true, as BMW makes significant income off service and repairs. So much so, they work to entice owners to come back for service out of warranty. So they do care about owners out of warranty.

You also stated something about 20k miles oil changes, but there is no BMW with a stated 20k mile oil change interval. Or anything remotely close to that currently. (20+ years ago, they did promote 15k mile oil changes in E39, E38, E46, etc., but that is not 20k miles)

Are you sure about that?

I think some people confuse their opinion with fact.

The Service Interval on my 2020 745Le is 20k miles or 2 years

It would seem you don’t know as much as you think you do…..

 

[bigjl]

Miles or KM?

@f355spider is talking miles 20k miles would be 33k km

20k MILES or 2 YEARS.

Why do people in the USA think they know what happens in the UK and EU when they don’t live there?

And why do they seem to assume somebody that owns a BMW in the UK or EU isn’t aware what their Service Interval is?

 

[bigjl]

The BMW dealership here that I occasionally bought parts from did not use their branded oil in either warranty nor after warranty service. Only if you asked for it and pay the extra.

Have never seen a BMW dealership that doesn’t use the BMW branded oil to be fair, even the BMW Assist cars carry BMW branded oil.

I just assumed they get a better deal on it than non branded

I believe Mercedes Dealers have a little bit more flexibility as I have had different oils used in my S Class at different Mercedes Dealers, both were Mobil oils though, the Mercedes Specialist I used would only ever used Petronas.

 

[BMWTurboDzl]

20k MILES or 2 YEARS.

Why do people in the USA think they know what happens in the UK and EU when they don’t live there?

And why do they seem to assume somebody that owns a BMW in the UK or EU isn’t aware what their Service Interval is?

Because 20k miles seems utterly ridiculous and sometimes the unit (km or mi) gets left out of the post.

 

[f355spider]

The Service Interval on my 2020 745Le is 20k miles or 2 years

Thank you for the correction

 

[Nesterenko]

Never bought a Bardhal product my entire life (had their stickers on my bicycle as a kid though)...and for the last 35 years I have lived less than two miles from their factory in the Ballard neighborhood of Seattle...not sure if they even make anything there anymore. The rail spur that ran up to the building was closed 20 years ago...The still have the giant neon sign on top of the building.

Are there any cars parked there?

 

[f355spider]

Are there any cars parked there?

Google earth shows that yes, there are a dozen cars outside in the parking area so there must be production continuing there. I'll try to snap a couple pictures next time I am down that way...during business hours. (just drove by there (a couple blocks to the west) this evening (Sunday))

 

[edyvw]

Everyone knows after BREXIT it is nominal, just geographically yes, but in the minds not very much. So the mistake is understandable

In their minds, they would like it to be 22 June of 2016.

 

[weasley]

Because 20k miles seems utterly ridiculous and sometimes the unit (km or mi) gets left out of the post.

It is only "utterly ridiculous" if you have grown up with 3,000 or 5,000 oil change intervals enabled by cheap in-and-out lube stations. 2yr/20k miles has been common in Europe across a few OEMs for YEARS and oils have been developed to meet these requirements for as long as they have existed.

To be clear though, the 20k mile interval is an "up to" value, and is achieved only under perfect operating conditions. Usually the interval is variable and will fall if any severe service is detected. That said I have run a BMW, Skoda, Audi and SEAT out to 18k miles, a mix of gasoline and diesel engines.

 

[Bailes1992]

It is only "utterly ridiculous" if you have grown up with 3,000 or 5,000 oil change intervals enabled by cheap in-and-out lube stations. 2yr/20k miles has been common in Europe across a few OEMs for YEARS and oils have been developed to meet these requirements for as long as they have existed.

To be clear though, the 20k mile interval is an "up to" value, and is achieved only under perfect operating conditions. Usually the interval is variable and will fall if any severe service is detected. That said I have run a BMW, Skoda, Audi and SEAT out to 18k miles, a mix of gasoline and diesel engines.

My Father found the old service book for his '91 Fiesta XR2i that subsequently got stolen. Back in 1991 they were recommending 12k/1 year intervals!

 

[BMWTurboDzl]

It is only "utterly ridiculous" if you have grown up with 3,000 or 5,000 oil change intervals enabled by cheap in-and-out lube stations. 2yr/20k miles has been common in Europe across a few OEMs for YEARS and oils have been developed to meet these requirements for as long as they have existed.

To be clear though, the 20k mile interval is an "up to" value, and is achieved only under perfect operating conditions. Usually the interval is variable and will fall if any severe service is detected. That said I have run a BMW, Skoda, Audi and SEAT out to 18k miles, a mix of gasoline and diesel engines.

Indeed!

Fortunately for me I've owned a few BMWs with the 15k/1yr interval (US) and the UOA's were not always encouraging.

 

[edyvw]

It is only "utterly ridiculous" if you have grown up with 3,000 or 5,000 oil change intervals enabled by cheap in-and-out lube stations. 2yr/20k miles has been common in Europe across a few OEMs for YEARS and oils have been developed to meet these requirements for as long as they have existed.

To be clear though, the 20k mile interval is an "up to" value, and is achieved only under perfect operating conditions. Usually the interval is variable and will fall if any severe service is detected. That said I have run a BMW, Skoda, Audi and SEAT out to 18k miles, a mix of gasoline and diesel engines.

There was a lot backing from 20k/2yrs. Some kept in only certain markets, some didn’t. It is almost if sun, moon and starts have to be in certain position to have it work.