You guys aware of that Valvolines new oil isn't Dexos licensed? I guess I'll keep using Extended Protection (which works great).
YaYou guys aware of that Valvolines new oil isn't Dexos licensed? I guess I'll keep using Extended Protection (which works great).
You do realize that official dexos is merely a pay-to-play scheme, especially since GM merely recommends using dexos-licensed oils as far as warranty is concerned? There’s nothing magical about oils that pay for the license, and there are plenty of oils that exceed its performance requirements.You guys aware of that Valvolines new oil isn't Dexos licensed? I guess I'll keep using Extended Protection (which works great).
Merely Recommends? Not any more. This is from a 2024 owners manual. I guess there is an out, with “or equivalent”, but your highly paid lawyer would have to have to convince them of that.You do realize that official dexos is merely a pay-to-play scheme, especially since GM merely recommends using dexos-licensed oils as far as warranty is concerned? There’s nothing magical about oils that pay for the license, and there are plenty of oils that exceed its performance requirements.
Seriously asking. Gm recommends or requires? I was under the impression that decos was a more stringent spec than normal API spec.
Priced too high for the beater crowd that potentially needs it …I'm not hearing or seeing much of this oil on any other forum. I'm going to guess it will have a slow but inevitable death like Modern Engine.
I can't imagine why an HM would have such a license. HM oils have no euro approvals either.You guys aware of that Valvolines new oil isn't Dexos licensed? I guess I'll keep using Extended Protection (which works great).
I believe my manual says use dexos or equivalent. I'll take a snippet later today and post.
Circle the wagons!
I'm not hearing or seeing much of this oil on any other forum. I'm going to guess it will have a slow but inevitable death like Modern Engine.
I finally saw a tv commercial for R&P so I don't know if it's still being ramped up or now marketing is trying to boost sales. It's too expensive at retail prices. I will be keeping an eye out for this oil over the next year to see if the prices drop and/or put on clearance. The only way I see this moving to some degree is if the price is reduced and sold at Walmart.Priced too high for the beater crowd that potentially needs it …
The only HM oil that I can think of that meets D1G3 is Quaker State FSHM. So its definitely not on the industry radar and there's definitely high mileage Dexos vehicles out there. Not doubting Dexos capabilities per Lubrizol's comparison but there doesn't seem to be an actual need for it.I can't imagine why an HM would have such a license. HM oils have no euro approvals either.