Originally Posted By: blupupher
Originally Posted By: Carmudgeon
Again, you seem unable to grasp that a picture of a beam against a wall or fence is not a valid test of headlamp performance.
In lieu of any other data you can provide, or proof of your credentials to make such an assertion, it is no more than internet quackery.
My original suggestion was simply to seek the guidance of those with professional expertise, because that's clearly lacking here.
And to believe that unproven modifications to safety systems will not impact their effectiveness is simply foolish.
People are not interested in facts and science.
I said the same thing above, but it just gets ignored and people want to look at a picture from a [censored] camera.
If it looks good, it must be good. Right?
Problem is a good option does exist that is not LED or HID.
Getting clear lens housings with some good halogen bulbs (something like the Xtra-Vision or Vision Plus bulbs, or maybe the modified 9012, along with the lights being aimed correctly) would be a good improvement over whatever old bulbs are in the fluted lenses that are probably very hazy.
Speaking of Daniel Stern, I had e-mailed him about a year ago specifically about LED PnP lights, and this is his reply (me in black, his response in blue:
Quote:
Greetings Blu, Thanks for writing.
Mr Stern, I have enjoyed your website and have learned a lot about lighting from it.
Glad to hear it!
I have used your site many times with regards to why not to do a Plug n Play HID "kit" in halogen housings. I have seen many people argue now that the optics and filament issue does not apply to the new PnP LED headlight bulbs.
But it does, for all the same reasons. The "LED bulb conversions" now flooding the market are not a legitimate, safe, effective, or legal product. No matter whose name is on them or what the vendor claims, these are a fraudulent scam. They are not capable of producing even a fraction of the amount of light produced by the filament bulb they supposedly replace, let alone producing it in the right pattern for the lamp's optics to work. Please take a look at this uncommonly rigourous amateur test of this kind of product:
http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/show...1-LL-H11-100-H9
Eventually there may be legitimate LED drop-ins for certain halogen headlight bulbs. It's being worked on by Philips, and their first products of this nature have been released in unregulated markets, but it's a great deal harder to achieve than the trinket vendors would have you believe. For now, *don't*.
I know the concept is the same between HID and LED, but many others do not
And most of those have made up their minds and don't wish to be bothered with facts.
Regards,
Daniel Stern
His last sentence really wraps it up.
Okay, I trust my eyes over facts and scientific proof. Seems like most other people also trust their eyes based on LED light reviews.
"Getting clear lens housings with some good halogen bulbs (something like the Xtra-Vision or Vision Plus bulbs, or maybe the modified 9012, along with the lights being aimed correctly) would be a good improvement over whatever old bulbs are in the fluted lenses that are probably very hazy."
9012's were not as bright and also not legal as you need to break off a tab to make it fit the 9006 housing. Xtra visions burnt out within 8 months..OP was looking for a better option...