Notice above GM person doesn't flame Toyota...now if it was a GM PT1 and his croonies would be all over it! :hide
You always have to try and turn it around don't you? Can't take the criticism to the fact that you are first to fan the flames, or even light the fire about something nasty in a domestic thread, but here we are in thread about possessed Toyota's and you are COMMENDING them for APOLOGIZING because the vehicle killed four people due to an issue that appears to have potentially killed MANY more, and nobody REALLY knows what the cause is?
They screwed up. That kind of stuff happens.
Nobody is flaming Toyota.
But you've got the big pair swinging between your legs to drag up Ford's Firestone issue as some sort of "see, Toyota is the BESTEST!!!!" in response to somebody pointing out a OBVIOUS character flaw in how you conduct yourself in an on-line forum.
Sorry buy you will have to take it up with Jacque Nassar Ex-Ceo at Ford as he publically denied there was a problem with the Exporer even after more than 800 people were killed all the way until Bill Ford kicked him out. These are documented facts. Just because you are uninformed doesn't mean that didn't happen. The Ford Explorer was the indutry's #1 SUV until this happened. Oh and unless you didn't know...Ralph Nader made his bones on the GM Corvair which they denied. Nobody but you said Toyota is best but at least the CEO isn't hiding. That is my point and why I buy a car from an ethical car company.
You just completely walked around my point.
Just like you walked around GMBoy's point.
You have no problem talking [censored] about Ford. You just did it. AGAIN. You have no problem talking [censored] about GM. You just did it. AGAIN.
But the instant Toyota screws up, you've got a list of excuses longer than Rita McNeill's room service bill. Trying to find the positive, ANY positive out of a very grave situation.
You don't get it. I don't give two sweet squeaks of a Unicorn's sphincter about how Jaque Nasser "screwed up" or how Ralph Nader is the anti-Christ. This thread isn't about Ford OR GM. But you, in your incessant Toyota zealotism made it a point to try and drag Toyota up by AGAIN pushing those two down just so that Toyota doesn't get flamed.
Which wasn't happening anyways!
Why?
Because this isn't a thread about Ford or GM's screw-ups, so you and your posse aren't working the red-eye making sure everybody knows how evil they are and how they are run by [censored]'s disciples and feast on the flesh of little children.
No, this thread is about Toyota having a serious safety issue and a distinct lack of a known cause. That is a genuine concern.
The point being made was that others are grown-up enough not to kick Toyota in the stones when they are down. The same cannot be said for you and Toyota's competition.
WOW and thanks for saying what I've been wanting to say. PT1 is a continual GM thread [censored] and offers nothing to intelligent conversations.
Otherwise, I'm staying out of this fight. I hope Toyota gets their problems worked out as soon as possible and no further loss of life is seen.