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Even if you are a hard core evolutionist you have to accept the possibility that a superior being evolved with the potential to create other things. A perfect example is humans. If humans evolved they still create other beings who are accountable to them.
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Evolution should not be considered a "threat" to religion. I believe in both a creator and evolution. Never understood why so many get bent out of shape over evolution.
It's a very respectable and solid theory grounded in "facts". Yes FACTS. The process is not fully understood but the latest scientific data is solving these questions. Everything else is faith.
It's a very respectable and solid theory grounded in "facts". Yes FACTS. The process is not fully understood but the latest scientific data is solving these questions. Everything else is faith.
There ought to be some fossils in the ocean floor somewhere, and maybe the conditions there are better for preserving traces of DNA.
Hi! I'm a bat!
Long ago I was some sort of goo, but decided [with no brain] to evolve an incredibly complex and inter related radar sending system with radar receptors. This was to be of no use for millions of years, but what the heck, let's go for it! Day to day life and reproduction was not enough for me!
I have no means chemically or mechanically to do so, and no reason to design a future system, but I did it! On my own! Scrw DNA!
There are countless examples like this that defy logic or have any known means of accomplishing them.
We won't go to 'Heck' because we believe either way, but science is not only on one side. Not by a long shot.
Long ago I was some sort of goo, but decided [with no brain] to evolve an incredibly complex and inter related radar sending system with radar receptors. This was to be of no use for millions of years, but what the heck, let's go for it! Day to day life and reproduction was not enough for me!
I have no means chemically or mechanically to do so, and no reason to design a future system, but I did it! On my own! Scrw DNA!
There are countless examples like this that defy logic or have any known means of accomplishing them.
We won't go to 'Heck' because we believe either way, but science is not only on one side. Not by a long shot.
Originally Posted By: oilyriser
On the other side of the coin we have the fact that religion is a product of evolution within human society. Some people benefit from having faith even if there is a conflict with logic, on occasion. Furthermore, from the other perspective, belief in Evolution has to ultimately be a product of the Creator...
This is why the issue will never be settled in the greater sense.
So a belief in religion is a byproduct of evolution, but a belief in evolution is a byproduct of a creator? Fair's fair, I guess.
FYI, my beliefs about evolution are largely byproducts of my own personal research. I must have more than two sides.
Have a good one.
On the other side of the coin we have the fact that religion is a product of evolution within human society. Some people benefit from having faith even if there is a conflict with logic, on occasion. Furthermore, from the other perspective, belief in Evolution has to ultimately be a product of the Creator...
This is why the issue will never be settled in the greater sense.
So a belief in religion is a byproduct of evolution, but a belief in evolution is a byproduct of a creator? Fair's fair, I guess.
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FYI, my belief in evolution is a byproduct of my own personal research.
Me too. I researched it ..and found out that knuckle dragging, much like foot/feet dragging, could be ascended from just by stopping.
FYI, my belief in evolution is a byproduct of my own personal research.
Me too. I researched it ..and found out that knuckle dragging, much like foot/feet dragging, could be ascended from just by stopping.
I'm waiting for Martian drill core results.
Originally Posted By: mechtech2
Hi! I'm a bat!
Long ago I was some sort of goo, but decided [with no brain] to evolve an incredibly complex and inter related radar sending system with radar receptors. This was to be of no use for millions of years, but what the heck, let's go for it! Day to day life and reproduction was not enough for me!
I have no means chemically or mechanically to do so, and no reason to design a future system, but I did it! On my own! Scrw DNA!
There are countless examples like this that defy logic or have any known means of accomplishing them.
We won't go to 'Heck' because we believe either way, but science is not only on one side. Not by a long shot.
How did the bat evolve to have wings, when lower life-forms have no concept of what air is and how to move through it? The same for eyes. How could something that can't see develop eyes?
Hi! I'm a bat!
Long ago I was some sort of goo, but decided [with no brain] to evolve an incredibly complex and inter related radar sending system with radar receptors. This was to be of no use for millions of years, but what the heck, let's go for it! Day to day life and reproduction was not enough for me!
I have no means chemically or mechanically to do so, and no reason to design a future system, but I did it! On my own! Scrw DNA!
There are countless examples like this that defy logic or have any known means of accomplishing them.
We won't go to 'Heck' because we believe either way, but science is not only on one side. Not by a long shot.
How did the bat evolve to have wings, when lower life-forms have no concept of what air is and how to move through it? The same for eyes. How could something that can't see develop eyes?
Go to the other board and look through the gigantic evolution thread. Page 5 isn't a bad place to start. Animals do not get to "pick" how they evolve. The mutations are random. Just because an animal "evolves" does not mean it is better suited to its environment. Most don't get superpowers that are a perfect match with their environment(s), most get something lame like Tay-Sachs or a halved lung capacity and have to live with it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_selection
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_selection
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/07/060714-evolution.html
http://google.nationalgeographic.com/sea...nG.x=0&btnG.y=0
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Evolution may sometimes happen so fast that it's hard to catch in action, a new study of Galápagos finches suggests.
Researchers from New Jersey's Princeton University have observed a species of finch in Ecuador's Galápagos Islands that evolved to have a smaller beak within a mere two decades.
http://google.nationalgeographic.com/sea...nG.x=0&btnG.y=0
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Evolution may sometimes happen so fast that it's hard to catch in action, a new study of Galápagos finches suggests.
Researchers from New Jersey's Princeton University have observed a species of finch in Ecuador's Galápagos Islands that evolved to have a smaller beak within a mere two decades.
It is a lemur monkey. Not a lemur human or monkey human. They can only guess as they were not there to see it just like people in the future may have to guess about alot of things about us.
I will stick with my Bible version, thank you.
I will stick with my Bible version, thank you.
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The Bible version is very convenient and kind of what I was getting at. It's a very pretty picture perfect version and makes people feel good. Gives people more of a purpose. Maybe that was all planned to be, but I don't buy any of it. Never have. This does not mean though I don't believe in a "creator". Something can't come from nothing.
Originally Posted By: Shannow
I've never yet heard of an animal with radio recievers built in, let alone transmitters.
Many do have receivers in their brains, though it's for really really really low frequencies (earth's magnetic field).
I've never yet heard of an animal with radio recievers built in, let alone transmitters.
Many do have receivers in their brains, though it's for really really really low frequencies (earth's magnetic field).
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The Bible version is very convenient and kind of what I was getting at. It's a very pretty picture perfect version and makes people feel good. Gives people more of a purpose. Maybe that was all planned to be, but I don't buy any of it. Never have. This does not mean though I don't believe in a "creator". Something can't come from nothing.
So you simply believe that everything has always existed. That doesn't seem to be the scientific thought. They seem to be looking for a God Particle that created the universe.
The Bible version is very convenient and kind of what I was getting at. It's a very pretty picture perfect version and makes people feel good. Gives people more of a purpose. Maybe that was all planned to be, but I don't buy any of it. Never have. This does not mean though I don't believe in a "creator". Something can't come from nothing.
So you simply believe that everything has always existed. That doesn't seem to be the scientific thought. They seem to be looking for a God Particle that created the universe.
Originally Posted By: oilyriser
If there isn't evolution, and extinction continues at its present rate, how long before we run out of species?
Who cares. Evolution is grounded on survival of the fittest. If they can't survive they deserve to die.
If there isn't evolution, and extinction continues at its present rate, how long before we run out of species?
Who cares. Evolution is grounded on survival of the fittest. If they can't survive they deserve to die.
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So you simply believe that everything has always existed.
I don't think he said that. He (sorta) said that everything returns to an origin of ONE. Scientific theories believe this too and accept it as fact. The rest from that moment on can be defined by humans to various degrees ..until you come to the first formation of life. Man cannot throw a selection of all the constituents that exist in all life forms ..throw in a beaker ..add energy and have life form from where there is none.
So you simply believe that everything has always existed.
I don't think he said that. He (sorta) said that everything returns to an origin of ONE. Scientific theories believe this too and accept it as fact. The rest from that moment on can be defined by humans to various degrees ..until you come to the first formation of life. Man cannot throw a selection of all the constituents that exist in all life forms ..throw in a beaker ..add energy and have life form from where there is none.
Not carbon-based life, at least...
... unless you're talking carbon fibre...
... unless you're talking carbon fibre...
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