The Missing Link

[Steve S]

Originally Posted By: moribundman

I have calloused knuckles.


I took you more for the kind of guy who gets corns on his fingertips from typing all day. Now, Pablo, he's the kind of guy who has calluses on his palms.*

*from digging up rocks etc

[/quote ]Fine leather driving gloves prevent palm calluses

 

[oilyriser]

Originally Posted By: mechtech2
All of a sudden throughout history, there are fully formed and functioning very highly developed creatures.
We have evidently found another one.


You're never going to find any partially formed, non-functioning, undeveloped creature's fossils. The chance of finding remnants of a weird mutant that didn't make the grade is extremely small.

 

[MarkC]

mechtech is just up to his usual stuff again.
Talking with no backup data.

 

[MarkC]

Originally Posted By: mechtech2
All of a sudden throughout history, there are fully formed and functioning very highly developed creatures.
We have evidently found another one.

A link? More like a hope that the desperate search is justified.

47 million years old? Prove it.

Integrate this new find to the T Rex bone, tissue, blood vessels and blood that was found - not fossilized.


We went over the T rex thing in detail earlier, and as usual with you, it's like talking to a wall, so why bother?

 

[oilyriser]

I only see former perfectly-formed cars at the wrecker's. You never see any of the so called transition stages between a horse and buggy and an automobile.

 

[BrianWC]

This has to be the most wrongly-publicized paleoanthro story I've read in a while. This stuff is just waaay above most journalists' heads. Although, I detect a bit of complicity (or at the very least, overexhuberance) from the scientists. All it shows is some sort of transitional step from lesser to greater apes. That's great...but seeing as we have several examples of primate evolution beyond this that more specifically demonstrate the evolution of humans from a "lesser state," I wouldn't call in earth-shattering.

 

[Gary Allan]

It's a missing link for a lower life form.

 

[BrianWC]

lol

 

[OVERKILL]

Originally Posted By: Gary Allan
It's a missing link for a lower life form.


There may be one of these posting on this board......

 

[oilyriser]

If there isn't evolution, and extinction continues at its present rate, how long before we run out of species?

 

[mechtech2]

Marc C - It's just another monkey. Sorry to dash your hopes.

 

[MarkC]

Actually, it's not yet a monkey.
My first name has a "k" not a "c", try to be more observant about what you read.
You seem to be the one with hopes that need satisfaction regarding history, not me.

 

[buster]

It's just hard for some people to accept the fact that we share a common ancestor with primates. I guess some humans have such big ego's they can't cope with the fact we are related to all other creatures on this planet. They then create other ways life originated that have no way of being proven.

To creationists, why out of all the lifeforms on Earth, would someone pick the ape and say "and I'm going to make humans look like one of these animals"? Why is our DNA 99.6% similar to a chimpanzee?

 

[Pablo]

And why is the life "genetic transfer system" the same (essentially) for ALL living things?

No one has shown an example of one species changing into another.

And no one has any proof for how life began.

Listen buster - a couple things. 1) I really believe in evolutionary changes. There is lots of proof for animals and plants and bacteria and viruses changing and adapting - but no proof of the core of a species changing into another species.
2) Please don't label all those who don't believe in the messy, made up as we go, huge ranging thing called evolution, "creationists". There is in between ground. It's not red or black.

 

[CompSyn]

In my view the “Big Ego” is best described as the human mind not wanting to accept the authority of a supernatural God, but rather putting much of their belief system into theories. After all, get rid of God, get rid of moral accountability and the drag that it is. This has lead to a breakdown of values in our society and gave birth to cultural relativism; what's good for me is good for me/what's good for you is good for you, etc.

Ben Stein is a fairly intelligent individual who spoke with many leading scientists on both sides of this issue in the middle of the road documentary Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed. It’s well done and something everyone should try challenging their minds with.

"The debate over evolution is confusing and to some, bewildering: "Wasn’t this all settled years ago?” The answer to that question is equally troubling: “Yes…and no.” - Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed

 

[MarkC]

Originally Posted By: CompSyn
In my view the “Big Ego” is best described as the human mind not wanting to accept the authority of a supernatural God, but rather putting much of their belief system into theories. After all, get rid of God, get rid of moral accountability and the drag that it is. This has lead to a breakdown of values in our society and gave birth to cultural relativism; what's good for me is good for me/what's good for you is good for you, etc.

Ben Stein is a fairly intelligent individual who spoke with many leading scientists on both sides of this issue in the middle of the road documentary Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed. It’s well done and something everyone should try challenging their minds with.

"The debate over evolution is confusing and to some, bewildering: "Wasn’t this all settled years ago?” The answer to that question is equally troubling: “Yes…and no.” - Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed


This is kind of a ridiculous argument.
One can believe in God and still accept scientific explanations for the way things work.
The Bible isn't a science book, nor was it written to be one.

The fossil record contains many examples of transitions; horse, whales, dinosaurs, birds., etc. There are examples of more than a dozen hominid species in the past, yet at present, only we remain.
Speciation is usually as long, very slow process, though among plants, and some insects and fish, it can happen more quickly.

Three species of wildflowers called goatsbeards were introduced to the United States from Europe shortly after the turn of the century. Within a few decades their populations expanded and began to encounter one another in the American West. Whenever mixed populations occurred, the specied interbred (hybridizing) producing sterile hybrid offspring. Suddenly, in the late forties two new species of goatsbeard appeared near Pullman, Washington. Although the new species were similar in appearance to the hybrids, they produced fertile offspring. The evolutionary process had created a separate species that could reproduce but not mate with the goatsbeard plants from which it had evolved.

 

[Julian]

Originally Posted By: CompSyn
After all, get rid of God, get rid of moral accountability and the drag that it is.
What a lie.

 

[Julian]

Originally Posted By: CompSyn
In my view the “Big Ego” is best described as the human mind not wanting to accept the authority of a supernatural God, but rather putting much of their belief system into theories.
Originally Posted By: MarkC
This is kind of a ridiculous argument.
Seems about right to me.

 

[Julian]

Originally Posted By: buster
It's just hard for some people to accept the fact that we share a common ancestor with primates. I guess some humans have such big ego's they can't cope with the fact we are related to all other creatures on this planet.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primate

 

[oilyriser]

On the other side of the coin we have the fact that religion is a product of evolution within human society. Some people benefit from having faith even if there is a conflict with logic, on occasion. Furthermore, from the other perspective, belief in Evolution has to ultimately be a product of the Creator...

This is why the issue will never be settled in the greater sense.