THANKS FOR RUINING THE CHEVY THREAD GUYS!!!!

[OVERKILL]

Originally Posted By: GMBoy
Originally Posted By: OVERK1LL
Uhh oh, 4-bolt mains!!! LOL!

My buddy's dad is a big Chevy old-timer and always goes on about that like it is the holy grail, LOL.

4-bolt mains were a big deal back in the day if you were making more power..a lot more power than stock. Today,engines are a little more robust. I was always curious as to why the F-cars (camaro/firebird) got 2 bolt mains LT1's and the Corvette got 4 bolt mains. You see lots of F-cars making crazy power and survive with 2 bolts.


Sort of my point though, I've seen plenty of 2-bolt Chevies (and Fords) making all kinds of power; far more than most of the guys who are all horned up about the 4-bolt, will ever make.

I think it was (and is in many respects) a lot of hoopla over something that really wasn't that significant. At the power level you need to be at for it to be significant, you are already into better rods and a steel crank. And then most guys are stepping up to a bigger, beefier aftermarket block anyway at that point.

 

[qdeezie]

To sum it up, some people don't have common enough sense to understand that there is a time and a place for everything.

The purpose of that particular Chevy thread was for positive conversation and memories involving Chevy vehicles. Some just didn't get that when reading it.

Whenever trolls appear, I just state what I have to state if a response is required and move on to something else.

 

[Spazdog]

I had a 1965 Chevrolet Impala. It had been built here in Arlington, TX. It was somewhat of an oddity. A two-door post. (pillared coupe) More like a Biscayne but it had 6 (total) taillights (instead of the Biscayne's 4) and Impala badges on the fenders.

The lady who owned it before me was a retired Air Force Colonel's widow and a heavy smoker. Once all the yellowed "pillow puff vinyl" seat covers had been removed and decades of tar and nicotine were scrubbed off, a very nice if somewhat faded interior was revealed.

That car was everything that was good and right with American cars. The Turbo-Fire 283 2bbl was willing and felt a lot more stout than the 185 or so hp it had. The Powerglide was smooth and I never really missed having a 3rd or 4th gear. The drum brakes were well biased and stopped the car well. Handling? I've driven smaller cars that did not handle as well as that car. I got rid of it because I wanted a 5.0 Mustang. Dumb mistake. The Impala was way cooler than any '85 Fox body Mustang.

Fast forward to after my Mustang's life was ended by some Doddering Old Fool in a Dodge Diplomat who decided to enter the intersection at the same time that I was. I got a 1979 Chevrolet Chevette. It was everything that was wrong with GM. There is nothing really good or happy about that car and I have documented the problems (there were many)here on several occasions. I should have bought a used Hyundai Excel. It would have been an upgrade. [Heck], I should have bought a Yamahopper moped. That would have been an upgrade.

 

[Nick R]

Originally Posted By: Spazdog
I had a 1965 Chevrolet Impala. It had been built here in Arlington, TX. It was somewhat of an oddity. A two-door post. (pillared coupe) More like a Biscayne but it had 6 (total) taillights (instead of the Biscayne's 4) and Impala badges on the fenders.

The lady who owned it before me was a retired Air Force Colonel's widow and a heavy smoker. Once all the yellowed "pillow puff vinyl" seat covers had been removed and decades of tar and nicotine were scrubbed off, a very nice if somewhat faded interior was revealed.

That car was everything that was good and right with American cars. The Turbo-Fire 283 2bbl was willing and felt a lot more stout than the 185 or so hp it had. The Powerglide was smooth and I never really missed having a 3rd or 4th gear. The drum brakes were well biased and stopped the car well. Handling? I've driven smaller cars that did not handle as well as that car. I got rid of it because I wanted a 5.0 Mustang. Dumb mistake. The Impala was way cooler than any '85 Fox body Mustang.

Fast forward to after my Mustang's life was ended by some Doddering Old Fool in a Dodge Diplomat who decided to enter the intersection at the same time that I was. I got a 1979 Chevrolet Chevette. It was everything that was wrong with GM. There is nothing really good or happy about that car and I have documented the problems (there were many)here on several occasions. I should have bought a used Hyundai Excel. It would have been an upgrade. [Heck], I should have bought a Yamahopper moped. That would have been an upgrade.


So the Chevette was the American Morris Marina?

 

[addyguy]

Personally, I think the Vega was the American Morris Marina.

They both actually have very, very similar 'situations' around them:

Both were brought out in 1971 by their respective companies, the largest manufacturers in each country, specifically to combat imports from Japan starting.

Both were rushed into rpoduction, with very little testing or prep, and both were built by unionized workforces that at the same time had decided to become very militant to enforce their labour demands, and took it out on the vehicles they built.

Both vehicles suffered catastrophic defects and poor service life, and both companies completely denied there was anything wrong with either vehicle, while desparately trying to force more and more production out.

I've always found it fascinating just HOW similar the Marina and Vega were....

 

[ARCOgraphite]

I had a Chevelle SS 396, 74 Vega GT & 83 S10 2.8. All great cars. Of the 65+ cars i've owned, the Chevelle and the S10 were in the top 5. The new mailbu is class leading in its segment ( given the performance of the midline rentals ive driven).

 

[Dakota1820]

Well I'm sure I'm.to blame owell. It bothers me that they claimed to be a new company when they were handling recalls but when they wana celebrate being American and having a heritage they are 100 yrs old. I miss the old good baseball hot dogs Apple pie and Chevrolet not this imposter. I am sorry about your thread though. I understand what you were trying to do and we were wrong to screw that up for you. that's all ill say about that

 

[Nick R]

Well luckily GM was able to pull itself out of it's funk, at least in terms of overall vehicle quality, compared to BL. I often wonder what kind of cars we would see from them, if BL were still around today.

 

[PF52]

Originally Posted By: qdeezie
To sum it up, some people don't have common enough sense to understand that there is a time and a place for everything.

The purpose of that particular Chevy thread was for positive conversation and memories involving Chevy vehicles. Some just didn't get that when reading it.



Thank you, I couldn't have said it better myself. I wanted to post in the earlier thread but it had already been ruined (and locked) by trolls.

My next new car will most likely be another Chevy.

 

[Mustang_Cougar]

I feel your pain, man.

This place has gotten so large that it's impossible for people to stay on target w/just about any thread; the anonymity of the internet and the before mentioned "overestimated value of one's own opinion" results in so much whining, fighting and general fluff. Recently I asked for some torque specs on a vehicle and it devolved into a fight about torque wrenches, how to use them and how stupid I must be to need one (in spite of the fact that I simply needed the #'s, and not judgments, so as to install a drain valve). At first it bothered me, but then I realized that many of the guys posting that stuff wouldn't be so flippant if we were standing there face-to-face, names known. So goes the internet though...been that way since Usenet.

To your original point though, my first car was a lime-green '63 Chevy II four-door. Cost me $250 and I think my dad bought it from a guy that may have been living in it (note: I paid for it w/Burger King wages I earned when I was 15 1/2). It had cardboard in the rear floor boards, rusted baby-moon hubcaps, oxidized paint and no seat belts (we rectified everything in short order). Anyway, I eventually wrecked it and I'm sure it went straight to scrap when traded in on a Mustang II (yeah, I know). However, to this day I still give myself whiplash anytime I see one of those cars on the road.

Though I'm not a Chevy Guy, if I were to come into some fantastic amount of money, I'd be at all the major auctions looking for a restored green Chevy II like I had back then. It might not be the most beautiful thing GM every made, but I would be smiling from ear-to-ear while puttering around in it...

M_C

 

[LS2JSTS]

This photo is from 2008 when GM itself was turning 100...As a Ford man, I can set aside 100+ years of healthy adversarial "hatred" and say...Happy Birthday, IMO it shows class on Fords part to acknowledge someone elses accomplishment...

 

[Nick R]

Oh now that's cool, and shows Ford being a good sport.

 

[exranger06]

Back when I was a litle kid (the earliest cars I can remember) my parents had 2 cars, both Chevies. My mother drove an 83 Camaro Berlinetta. Charcoal gray, gold rims, light gray interior. V8, automatic. Had no AC, but had T-tops. I remember her picking me up from pre-school in it and riding in the backseat. My father had an 85 S10 Blazer 2 door, black. I remember my mom complaining how slow it was

the Blazer was sold in January 1995 to buy the Honda in my sig. My father got stuck in the snow once and my parents decided they needed another 4wd SUV, so the Honda became my mother's car, the Camaro was sold, and the Explorer in my sig was bought Feb of 1996.

My father wanted a "toy" years ago, so in 2000, he bought a 1967 Corvette 427 convertible. All original, numbers matching, near-mint condition. Spent about $10k rebuilding the engine. Won a lot of trophies at car shows. Since Dad passed away about 4.5 years ago, it sits in the garage, occasionally driven to keep the seals lubed. It's for sale, if anyone's interested.

 

[expat]

I have to disagree here.
First, I don't believe the Chevette was ALL bad.
It was Cheap, and put into production too soon. But it was a small economical car when small cars were in demand.
Later models seemed quite reliable (I still see a few around)

The Austin/Morris Marina v Chevy Vega..... Different Fish!
The Marina was an update of the venerable Morris Minor/MGB, a tired and true power train, BUT DATED!!! made cheap, and by a 'Don't give a Darn' workforce.
The Vega WAS rushed into production, was built cheap, and used an engine that needed MUCH more R&D.

The Austin Allegro (All Agro) was, I feel, more akin to the Vega.
Fortunately, it did not come to North America
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austin_Allegro
"the only bit of the Allegro they got even vaguely right was the rust-proofing"

 

[LS2JSTS]

What color is your '67? Does it have the 427/435HP tri power package? How much are you asking?

POST SOME PICS...I'm always interested in seeing a sweet 60's era Vette...A '63 split window coupe is my personal fave but the 67 tri power is a very close second.

 

[exranger06]

It's not a tri-power. It's the 427 390 HP. It's green with white top and white stinger. I have the original green hard top as well. I'd have to consult with my mother on the price, but I know she wants at LEAST $110k. I'll try to get some pics up when I get home tonight.

 

[45ACP]

Originally Posted By: LS2JSTS
This photo is from 2008 when GM itself was turning 100...As a Ford man, I can set aside 100+ years of healthy adversarial "hatred" and say...Happy Birthday, IMO it shows class on Fords part to acknowledge someone elses accomplishment...

Ive always been a "GM guy" though ive had a ford car and liked it. Good sport, Ford!

(I decided to remove my comment about Ford No GM YES on bailouts. Since we dont like to talk about that kind of thing.)

 

[cadfaeltex]

Grew up in a Ford Family so my Chevy stories are limited. There is one particularly positive one. When I was about 13 my parents got a 1970 red Corvette big block. I can almost still feel the torque in that car. My mom would race from stop sign to stop sign just to feel the rush - especially if I had a buddy jammed into the passenger seat with me. Still love the look of the early c3 vettes.

 

[Bamaro]

Its the internet. Anybody can make snarky comments without showing their face.

 

[ARB1977]

Its just opinions. Take it for whats its worth. Ive never owned a chevy. We did have a Cavalier that was my mom and dads which was an ok car. Mostly imports here.