SuperTech Oil Filter?

[Chris 2421]

I use ST filters on all vehicles except the race car(it gets a Fram for contengency reasons) and have had no problems.I'm quite happy with them.

On the other topic..when did falstaff close?? My dad used to have one in a while when we lived in Texas back in the late 60's.And I prefer Budweiser myself.

 

[RobWest]

The ST is a quality filter. I just bought several at Walmart today, along with 2 cases of Chevron Supreme

The ST30 my small block takes does have METAL endcaps! Looks about the same inside as the Purolator I have been using for years.

 

[kiko]

I bought an ST filter yesterday at the local Wally World. When I got home I noticed that the barrel has a dent on it. Upon further inspection it doesn't look like the rest of the filter has been damaged. No dents to the ring or the thread portion. Just the barrel. Is it still safe to use this filter or should I go back and get a good one? Thanks.

 

[Ray H]

If it's not a sharp crease that separated the paint from the metal, I wouldn't worry. I've used mildly dented filters a number of times with never a problem. Heck, my '73 Ford Galaxie 500 came from the factory with a slightly dented oil filter. If you're still concerned, return it. Wally*World's pretty good about exchanges and refunds. Better to restock a two buck oil filter than **** off a customer.

 

[labman]

Ah, go ahead and use it if that is all. it is not worth the bother of returning it.

 

[John-r]

Budwiser beer isn't half bad if you run it through A good AC filter before you drink it.

 

[labman]

That still doesn't help the IRL.

 

[tom slick]

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Fram and Budweiser have a lot in common. #1 in their markets, moderately priced, poor quality products and tens of millions of customers that don't know the difference.

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actually bud's quality and quality control is probably some of the best of any business. thier beer will always taste the same year after year, and no matter which brewery it comes from. you'll never have a "bad" batch. one thing they do have in common with fram is they make their products as cheap as possible but sell them at a moderate price.
that being said i don't drink any of thier products. i'll take a craft brewed beer from calif, oregon, or washington any day of the week.

back to the original subject, if (for example)the ST filter is $10 and your favorite filter is $15, what difference does the $5 difference make every few months when you change the oil? if you have any doubt about any product, and the price difference is minimal, why fret about it?

 

[XS650]

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Originally posted by tom slick:
actually bud's quality and quality control is probably some of the best of any business. thier beer will always taste the same year after year, and no matter which brewery it comes from. you'll never have a "bad" batch.

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Yes, they have perfected reliable mediocrity. You will also never have a "good" batch.

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back to the original subject, if (for example)the ST filter is $10 and your favorite filter is $15, what difference does the $5 difference make every few months when you change the oil? if you have any doubt about any product, and the price difference is minimal, why fret about it?

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I don't know what you are getting at there, since Fram is worse than some cheaper filters.

 

[Digital2k2]

I put a ST3614 on my truck in place of the fram after reading this site.. no complaints except there were a lot of metal flakes on the filter, especially where the thread is to screw it on.

I wiped as much of it off as possible then installed it, and ran my engine. I pulled the dipstik out and there were metal flakes on it! so I knew it had gone through my engine..

anyway the filter caught them after a couple miles but I'm still unsure rather to go with a supertech or not next oil change, I like everything about them more than the fram except for that.

I started looking at more of them and most other supertechs do have the tiny metal flakes, so much that you could get a metal splinter in your finger (I did) if you run it over the thread machined in the middle.

of course I noticed it on most fram and motorcraft filters also but I've never had one send it through my engine to the point it was visible on the dip stick.

 

[tom slick]

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I don't know what you are getting at there, since Fram is worse than some cheaper filters

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just to clarify, i was refering to the first post where he was saying he wasn't sure about running a ST filter because he has been running purolators.

 

[Alan]

Never seen a metal flake with the ST filter I've used.Have seen this with the Purolator model for my Corolla.

 

[mikep]

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Originally posted by John-r:
Budwiser beer isn't half bad if you run it through A good AC filter before you drink it.

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[Tony Kimmell]

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Originally posted by XS650:

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Originally posted by tom slick:
actually bud's quality and quality control is probably some of the best of any business. thier beer will always taste the same year after year, and no matter which brewery it comes from. you'll never have a "bad" batch.

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Yes, they have perfected reliable mediocrity. You will also never have a "good" batch.

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back to the original subject, if (for example)the ST filter is $10 and your favorite filter is $15, what difference does the $5 difference make every few months when you change the oil? if you have any doubt about any product, and the price difference is minimal, why fret about it?

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I don't know what you are getting at there, since Fram is worse than some cheaper filters.

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So can we do a urinalysis on a few beers to find out which one is best?

Beer choice is as broad as any other consumable. I like drinking beer for the taste, and personally I think Bud Light is good stuff. My brother in law drinks Guiness and brown ale all the time and I can't stand to even smell the stuff, let alone drink it. He always tells me it's REAL beer compared to my Bud Light. Then of course there are the people out there who think the exact opposite as well... just matter of taste really.

 

[Pluto5]

The beer analogy was that you can spend 3 bucks for a six pack of Milwaukee's Best or 5 bucks for a six pack of Miller's and you are getting an equal amount of beer which is probably indistinguishable. (To non-drinkers: MB is made by Miller.)

So, if you like advertising buy the Miller for 2 bucks more and keep the pencil heads on Madison Ave. employed. Or buy an S-T filter and have free beer!

[ February 05, 2004, 07:39 PM: Message edited by: Pluto5 ]

 

[Grease is the word]

Sorry, I don't have any beer comparisons, but I don't care too much for the ST filters. They are OK and certainly worth 2 bucks, but I would use a 3 buck AC Delco any day of the week.

Reason: The AC media has a smaller pore size and more media and it flows nearly as well as the ST.

[ February 05, 2004, 08:39 PM: Message edited by: Grease is the word ]

 

[labman]

Right, as I said 7 January, "If the OEM is available for about the same as the Purolator, I would buy the OEM.

I am not down on Purolator. It is just that in the PF 1177, the AC is better, and the ST cheaper. You need to check your own number."

I am using the ST because it is cheaper than the Purolator or STP and about as good. I may try the PF 1218.

 

[90mustang]

I just don't like the bypass valve (flat disc) of the ST especially vs the "Ford design" at the threaded end. Can anyone reasure me this is an ok design?

 

[Mike_dup1]

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Originally posted by labman:

I am using the ST because it is cheaper than the Purolator or STP and about as good. I may try the PF 1218.

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YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR

 

[cheeks]

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I just don't like the bypass valve (flat disc) of the ST especially vs the "Ford design" at the threaded end. Can anyone reasure me this is an ok design?

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Many people feel the same as you do. Last year I cut open a Bosch 820 Motorcraft equivalent which apparently is virtually the same as the SuperTech. The link to the photos is on the below thread, along with commentary from others you might find useful.

http://theoildrop.server101.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=6;t=000483#000000