Oil Recommendations for Highest Wear Protection

Anything added to the base oil, including elements like Molybdenum, Magnesium, Calcium, Prosperous, etc, are still technically "additives" to the oil. Semantics.

From info about motor oil analysis done by Blackstone and others, they use ICP (inductively coupled plasma) Spectroscopy, which detects the elements added to the oil, and those elements are shown in ppm on an oil analysis report.

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Ok, I was just able to view it on my phone. Was a guy ranting about how the oil container had no "born on date" so you couldn't tell how old the oil was, and then he looks at a UOA from a Mercedes Sprinter with 9,000 miles on the oil (but with no baseline to compare against) and then is saying it had high wear metals so Mobil 1 ESP 5W-30 must be crap. Then he criticized all Euro oils as not being able to handle extended OCI's and if you do an extended OCI oil with a euro oil, you risk catastrophic engine failure. Basically, if you reverse everything thing that guy said, you would have the truth LOL. Entertaining video though. It was obvious that the guy was not the brightest light in the chandalier.
 
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Seems that way. I found the Australian manual recommends 5W-30 and does not mention 0W-20 at all. I will search for a thick 5W-30 oil. Thanks.
The Australian manual also recommends 0w-20 SAE viscosity (and says you can use some others if required).

However, there are some very interesting differences in the recommendations on spec.

ACEA A3 or A5? There are quite a few Full Saps/Zinc oils that come under those specs!

My manual.
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Hey. I recently purchased a 2023 Subaru BRZ (FA24) and the owner's manual calls for 0W-20 API SN/SP Resource Conserving or ILSAC GF-5/6A. After some research, it seems like the recommendation for 0W-20 is more for CAFE and EPA satisfaction, rather than engine performance and longevity. I'm sure using 5W-30 wouldn't harm anything outside of fuel efficiency (which is what I did in my Miata anyways when it called for 5W-20), however while researching oils, I went down the HTHS rabbit hole and now I'm looking at possibly using a Euro oil for the higher viscosity.

Does HTHS above 2.9 in the API/ILSAC specs for 5W-30 actually have value, or is it just additional headroom for when the oil shears? Seems like all the Euro oils have HTHS or 3.5 or higher for their manufacturer approvals. Also, I understand that most of the Euro specs are more stringent than API and ILSAC requirements, so there shouldn't be any compatibility issues with something like Pennzoil Euro L 5W-30 in my engine, correct? No issue with it being a mid-SAPs oil or that it's missing moly, tungsten, or titanium? That oil specifically has SN approval (not Resource Conserving), Dexos 2, and a few Euro specs. Any oil recommendations that you guys would recommend? I'd like something off the shelf if possible.

For context, the vehicle is in a southern state, warm/hot climate 10 months out of the year, will be used as a daily driver (a lot of short tripping, 5 miles a day commute both ways), and HPDE events or canyon carving on the weekends. I don't care about the factory warranty. If it really comes down to needing to use it, I will pursue legal action if the Subaru attempts to "void" my warranty. The manufacturer isn't going to be there to hold my hand if the engine blows a day late or a mile over. Any guidance would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
I'd say you're doing the right thing. I will be using the same m1 0w40 in my wife's brand new engine in her Hyundai....since the warranty on that engine is approved based on a visual inspection for sludge as long as you're willing to pay for the inspection.

It had m1 0w20 high mileage when it seized. I had picked it only for one OCI in the dead of winter, to help with cold starts. But it got warm early in the end of winter anyway.... I usually used 5w30 in it though it always had 5w20 for the first several years of my wife owning it.
No oil usage, just locked up tight one day. Probably would have happened regardless of oil but but potentially using the 40w it's entire lifetime might have delayed that, so I will do so on the new engine.
 
Since this is a recent purchase, is there a warranty involved? If so, I would advise you to stick with whatever is prescribed in the owners manual until the warranty has expired. Even the aftermarket policies will balk at paying for repairs on a motor they perceive to be "improperly maintained" regardless of what your intentions are.
 
Since this is a recent purchase, is there a warranty involved? If so, I would advise you to stick with whatever is prescribed in the owners manual until the warranty has expired. Even the aftermarket policies will balk at paying for repairs on a motor they perceive to be "improperly maintained" regardless of what your intentions are.
What dealer can distinguish a warranty denial difference in the UOA viscosity of a 5w20 versus an 0w20?
Plus, Subaru states in the OP's Owners Manual that the 0w20 is a Recommendation, not a Requirement.
 
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