Not caring enough about a lease

[GZRider]

Hertz is somewhat of an exception in the car rental industry, they cater and advertise as much if not more to corporate accounts. Their renters tend to be more he type attending business meetings, weddings and retreats, whereas Enterprise seems to cater to college kids needing an FCA product for the local Lemons Rally.

 

[OVERKILL]

BITOG: where every thread leads to financial advice, whether you wanted it or not.

 

[JeffKeryk]

Originally Posted by OVERKILL
BITOG: where every thread leads to financial advice, whether you wanted it or not.

I think Mr. Ramsey is a board member...
Extra credit for Elon bashing.

 

[SatinSilver]

Originally Posted by GZRider
Hertz is somewhat of an exception in the car rental industry, they cater and advertise as much if not more to corporate accounts. Their renters tend to be more he type attending business meetings, weddings and retreats, whereas Enterprise seems to cater to college kids needing an FCA product for the local Lemons Rally.


Yes, my brother travels with work 50% of the time and uses Hertz. And likes them a lot. Enterprise also caters to body shops and dealerships that don't have their own fleet.

 

[NormanBuntz]

Originally Posted by Wolf359
Originally Posted by MrWideTires
Originally Posted by ARCOgraphite


I do worry about careless people in the store parking lot putting dents in the lease though.
That will come out of your hide when you turn it in.


Usually I sell off the lease to carmax or another dealer, and get money back.. plus once the papers are signed you walk away and never have to worry about getting billed later for tires or dents.


That's a sign of a bad lease. Means you paid too much for the lease. When you have an artificially high residual value, it doesn't make sense to sell it off privately, it's cheaper to turn it into the dealer. The manufacturer ends up taking two hits this way, but they like it because it's easier to hide in the books.


Your blanket statements don't make sense. A "bad lease" is where you have negative equity when you go to sell or trade it, not when you get money back. And when you "turn it in" to the dealer, you almost always have a disposition fee unless you buy or lease another vehicle. Mrwidetires leased a car, using other people's money, and got money back when he he sold it before lease end. Sounds good to me.

 

[HM12460]

Originally Posted by OVERKILL
BITOG: where every thread leads to financial advice, whether you wanted it or not.





Yes. It gets old too. Never seen so many self proclaimed "financial expert's" In 1 spot. Emphasis on the "self proclaimed" One would think these individuals would at some point come to understand nobody here cares about their opinion's on leasing or other financial words of wisdom.

 

[ARCOgraphite]

I've never seen so many self proclaimed "oil experts" in one spot

Its a forum; A casual discussion.

Its just the way it works.

Pick and choose advice from the basket of ideas.

Enjoy!

 

[4WD]

Originally Posted by ARCOgraphite
I've never seen so many self proclaimed "oil experts" in one spot

Its a forum; A casual discussion.

Its just the way it works.

Pick and choose advice from the basket of ideas.

Enjoy!


Right … and I think "value" is still what many want verification of …

 

[AuthorEditor]

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Its a forum; A casual discussion.

Exactly! If you don't like a thread don't read it! Nobody is forcing you to read every post either--just read the ones you are interested in, even if you don't read the entire thread.

 

[JustN89]

Originally Posted by ARCOgraphite
I've never seen so many self proclaimed "oil experts" in one spot

Its a forum; A casual discussion.

Its just the way it works.

Pick and choose advice from the basket of ideas.

Enjoy!

This is flawed logic, however. This is an oil forum, where people come to discuss oils of all types whether they're experts in the field or complete novices. This can take the form of technical dialogue or more casual discussion, but either is welcome and sought after.

This is not a financial forum, however. The OP wasn't seeking the financial benefits of leasing, purchasing, or selling his vehicles and replacing them with horse-drawn carriages. This isn't the place to insert your financial advice, even casually, without that advice being sought out.

Originally Posted by AuthorEditor
Exactly! If you don't like a thread don't read it! Nobody is forcing you to read every post either--just read the ones you are interested in, even if you don't read the entire thread.


I'm sorry, but this is the absolute worst way to navigate a forum. Instead of ignoring off-topic posts in a thread that no one asked for, how about people keep their off-topic, unsolicited financial advice posts to themselves?

Another question, how do you know if it's a post you want to read or not unless you, you know, actually read the post?

 

[AuthorEditor]

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Another question, how do you know if it's a post you want to read or not unless you, you know, actually read the post?

I would suggest keeping off-topic forum advice out of this thread, but to each his own. Skimming is your friend. Read the first and last post at least, skim the rest looking for the good bits. You might not be interested in financial advice or information, but others might find it useful.

 

[JustN89]

Originally Posted by AuthorEditor
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Another question, how do you know if it's a post you want to read or not unless you, you know, actually read the post?

I would suggest keeping off-topic forum advice out of this thread, but to each his own. Skimming is your friend. Read the first and last post at least, skim the rest looking for the good bits. You might not be interested in financial advice or information, but others might find it useful.

The problem is, the OP asked a question about a specific topic and people clicked on the link to read about that specific topic, not to read the first and last post to determine if they want to go through the thread. That's what thread titles are for. Do you have to agree with every post? Absolutely not. However, you shouldn't have to sift through off-topic, unsolicited posts to read the posts that are actually pertinent to the original topic. That's a lot of work when it could all be avoided by simply keeping your off-topic posts to yourself.

 

[4WD]

Originally Posted by AZjeff
Back to this lease, taking the OLM to 0% and using the cheapest spec oil and filter is meeting the requirements. Used oil is not. A shame to care so little about the next owner for the small amount of savings.


I'm over maintenance … and hope the next owner (who likely has less income) will get as many miles out of it as I did …

 

[lawrencerd]

I haven't had a lease, but I've taken care of a couple for my mom who used to do it. I think it's good karma to treat it well for the next owner - at the very least on time oil changes with NEW in spec oil. But yeah, run it down to 0% all day long, I wouldn't feel bad about that.

 

[NormanBuntz]

JustN89, this was your first post on this thread:

"...I don't believe that buying cars off of leases is the deal that some people make them out to be."

Your criticism of others offering financial advice (even in response to other posters in the thread) is like the pot calling the kettle black.

 

[JustN89]

Originally Posted by NormanBuntz
JustN89, this was your first post on this thread:

"...I don't believe that buying cars off of leases is the deal that some people make them out to be."

Your criticism of others offering financial advice (even in response to other posters in the thread) is like the pot calling the kettle black.

Why don't you post my whole quote instead of cherrypicking.

Originally Posted by JustN89
This makes total sense and I agree with that plan. This is also the reason that I don't believe that buying cars off of leases is the deal that some people make them out to be.


My post addressed the topic of the OP with my opinion. Not whether or not he should lease and why his decision to lease is why he's not a self-made millionaire. Nice try.

 

[OVERKILL]

Originally Posted by AuthorEditor
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Another question, how do you know if it's a post you want to read or not unless you, you know, actually read the post?

I would suggest keeping off-topic forum advice out of this thread, but to each his own. Skimming is your friend. Read the first and last post at least, skim the rest looking for the good bits. You might not be interested in financial advice or information, but others might find it useful.


And that results in people posting things that have already been posted in the thread, something of which the occurrence is annoyingly frequent. If somebody goes to the trouble of taking snips from an owners manual, spelling out the language and two pages later bubba comes in, skims the OP, doesn't read the thread and then posts a small section of the manual already covered in what was previously posted and then two other people "QFT" his post because they did the same bloody thing, you've just seriously decreased the value of the exchange that transpired in that thread all because people were lazy.

It's the same critique for financial advice. The OP didn't solicit any; it wasn't part of his query, but there becomes a sub discussion about it because this is some sort of strangely perverse BITOG-ism that implores those who feel they are savvy to inject their wisdom, solicited or not, in any thread that it might possibly apply. This completely derails the topic and it isn't like the OP is going to magically have an epiphany and completely re-frame his financials because some dude(s) on the Internet told him he's a moron for leasing when he created a thread about maintenance advice.

 

[PimTac]

The point that got some members going was the OPs suggestion that he might put used oil in the leased vehicle. That came across as a "I don't care about the next owner" statement.

Sadly, a lot of people do not care about other people's property or possessions. That does translate into beating on a car that you won't have for long to begin with and letting the next owner deal with your actions

 

[AuthorEditor]

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The OP didn't solicit any; it wasn't part of his query, but there becomes a sub discussion about it because this is some sort of strangely perverse BITOG-ism that implores those who feel they are savvy to inject their wisdom, solicited or not, in any thread that it might possibly apply.

Case in point.

 

[OVERKILL]

Originally Posted by AuthorEditor
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The OP didn't solicit any; it wasn't part of his query, but there becomes a sub discussion about it because this is some sort of strangely perverse BITOG-ism that implores those who feel they are savvy to inject their wisdom, solicited or not, in any thread that it might possibly apply.

Case in point.


Hardly. The thread's already up a cow's colon at this point, discussing what put it there is decidedly germane, particularly if it prevents similar occurrences going forward.