New vehicle- change ff within 1k or go full OCI?

[Danh]

Originally Posted By: igs
Originally Posted By: slacktide_bitog

Honda begs to differ. They use a special break-in oil with a high-moly additive in their FF, not sold commercially or otherwise available outside the Honda factories

Urban legend. Please post a link to where Honda says that.


You could look at a UOA for a Honda factory fill. Lots of molybdenum. Regular Honda motor oil? About 0. This comes from assembly lubes that wash into the engine oil, but Honda thinks it's important. Or take a look at mightymousetech's posts: he's an Acura tech that gets regular reminders from Honda about the importance of leaving in the factory fill.

So it's there. Whether you choose to believe it's important is a different matter.

 

[kschachn]

Originally Posted By: igs
Moly is a friction modifier. It does the opposite of what you want in a break in oil. You should be changing out the ff even sooner then, like as soon as you drive off the dealer lot.

So those manufacturers don't know what they are doing? But you saw through it and know better?

 

[igs]

Originally Posted By: kschachn
Originally Posted By: igs
Moly is a friction modifier. It does the opposite of what you want in a break in oil. You should be changing out the ff even sooner then, like as soon as you drive off the dealer lot.

So those manufacturers don't know what they are doing? But you saw through it and know better?


Where do manufacturers say not to change out the ff?

Here's an actual quote from a manufacturer:

"We now encourage all owners to change their oil at 500 miles to remove possible contaminants created during the engine break-in process." - Monte Doran

 

[Hootbro]

Originally Posted By: igs


Where do manufacturers say not to change out the ff?

Here's an actual quote from a manufacturer:

"We now encourage all owners to change their oil at 500 miles to remove possible contaminants created during the engine break-in process." - Monte Doran


Nice cherry pick of a quote that was meant only for Chevy Z06 Corvette owners who were tracking their cars out the gate after purchase and grenading their engines.

Let me also guess, you think the term "friction" in friction modifier increases friction?

It is OK to be wrong man, [censored] I am from time to time but you are digging a grave here with some of your statements.

Keep shovling.

 

[kschachn]

Originally Posted By: Hootbro
you are digging a grave here with some of your statements.

Keep shovling.

Exactly.

It won't be long.

 

[K23Turbo]

I'd consult the owners manual and go from there. If it doesn't say, I'd run it for a full oci.