New mobil 1 0w40 viscosity

[edyvw]

I don’t think anyone has ever bought that oil. I wonder why they even sell it.

True. I see they updated it as pour point increased.

 

[edyvw]

Yeah, I would too, it's a VERY new product, it's not even on the Mobil product guide (which would definitively show us the phosphorous level).

Yeah, i am trying to find but saw increased pour point so it is updated. But again, XOM lists less info now then ever before.

 

[SubieRubyRoo]

Yeah, i am trying to find but saw increased pour point so it is updated. But again, XOM lists less info now then ever before.

Probably because they realized that SDS/PDS warriors were buying other products due to mostly irrelevant data when compared to their competitors, and so they stick to the simple “it meets the spec, use it”. Just a guess, not saying it’s right or wrong methods. But seems to be logical. Why advertise you’re worse than the competition when your oil has the required certs and performs as expected?

 

[chris719]

Probably because they realized that SDS/PDS warriors were buying other products due to mostly irrelevant data when compared to their competitors, and so they stick to the simple “it meets the spec, use it”. Just a guess, not saying it’s right or wrong methods. But seems to be logical. Why advertise you’re worse than the competition when your oil has the required certs and performs as expected?

That’s possible. I think now though people just buy oils based on Project Farm tests lol.

If I had more free time and money I would set up a BMW S85 V10 testbed and do oil comparisons through a test cycle in the engine with fresh rod bearings each time and compare after test.

 

[edyvw]

Probably because they realized that SDS/PDS warriors were buying other products due to mostly irrelevant data when compared to their competitors, and so they stick to the simple “it meets the spec, use it”. Just a guess, not saying it’s right or wrong methods. But seems to be logical. Why advertise you’re worse than the competition when your oil has the required certs and performs as expected?

The point of approval is that, but then, Motul lists a lot and explains approvals in simple terms. So, same theory would be: they are hiding something, there is competition.

 

[travis8352]

They can't if they want it to stay A3/B4 compliant (full-SAPS), because if they made it SP, phosphorous would have to take a major haircut.

Nevermind i didnt read far enuff lol

 

[OVERKILL]

They could do what mobil does with FS 5w30. The labels says it passes SP engine test requirements but labeled api SL

Yeah, we discussed that in subsequent posts

 

[travis8352]

Yeah, we discussed that in subsequent posts

I posted that and thought oh man im gonna blow some minds here then read 3 more posts... DOH lol

 

[travis8352]

That’s possible. I think now though people just buy oils based on Project Farm tests lol.

If I had more free time and money I would set up a BMW S85 V10 testbed and do oil comparisons through a test cycle in the engine with fresh rod bearings each time and compare after test.

Aint that the truth!! Ive seen multiple amsoil users on the facebook ram pages switch to PUP because of project farm

 

[travis8352]

Yeah, I would too, it's a VERY new product, it's not even on the Mobil product guide (which would definitively show us the phosphorous level).

Its the 0w40 SP Additive package but in a 5w30 viscosity. I checked the revision number on the back of the FS 5w30 and its the same as the 0/5w40. 6748

 

[Torrid]

Went into WM today with the intention to pick up some M1 0w40. Euro Castrol 5w40 was on sale for $3 cheaper a jug. I left with my usual Castrol. I can't decide if I'm indecisive, cheap, or both.

 

[Titan]

Went into WM today with the intention to pick up some M1 0w40. Euro Castrol 5w40 was on sale for $3 cheaper a jug. I left with my usual Castrol. I can't decide if I'm indecisive, cheap, or both.

You remain open to new information prior to making a choice, and are also thrifty. (It's all in how you say it...)

 

[f355spider]

Went into WM today with the intention to pick up some M1 0w40. Euro Castrol 5w40 was on sale for $3 cheaper a jug. I left with my usual Castrol. I can't decide if I'm indecisive, cheap, or both.

Was it really a sale, or just the normal $22.97 for Castrol Euro 5w-40?

 

[buster]

Probably because they realized that SDS/PDS warriors were buying other products due to mostly irrelevant data when compared to their competitors, and so they stick to the simple “it meets the spec, use it”. Just a guess, not saying it’s right or wrong methods. But seems to be logical. Why advertise you’re worse than the competition when your oil has the required certs and performs as expected?

I think that's probably the case. They also removed VI and HT/HS on some products around the time Gokhan posted his BOQI.

 

[Torrid]

Was it really a sale, or just the normal $22.97 for Castrol Euro 5w-40?

Walmart $3 off which made it like $7 cheaper than the Mobil 1.

 

[loneryder]

You remain open to new information prior to making a choice, and are also thrifty. (It's all in how you say it...)

He remains open to a lower price.

 

[proveitwithdata]

Figured id ask the question m1 0w40 vs pp euro l 5w30 in a na motor?

 

[Torrid]

Figured id ask the question m1 0w40 vs pp euro l 5w30 in a na motor?

I guess it depends on the engine. I like 40 weights in GM LSs and basically anything turbo.

 

[f355spider]

Walmart $3 off which made it like $7 cheaper than the Mobil 1.

So around $20?!! Deal!

 

[wemay]

I guess it depends on the engine. I like 40 weights in GM LSs and basically anything turbo.

Pennzoil Plat Euro L 5W-30 on Amazon:
3-jugs / $43
HT/HS ~3.5