My Suv had a heart attack, too much Bacon? Help!

[aquariuscsm]

What a trip!!

I feel like I dodged a bullet! I almost bought a jug of that stuff,but the tightwad in me bought the cheaper QSUD instead,whew! *as I admire my new jug of QSUD 0W20*

 

[ZeeOSix]

Originally Posted By: Jooksing
I called M1 already (they said take it to a shop, tear the engine apart,and send them the report.) They sent me a form to fill out.


Did Mobil what a sample of this goo?

 

[benjy]

hoping its not mobil I, i use 10-30 extended performance + have had no issues + DIY all my oil changes as well as family members!! being a hybrid + operating "differently" may have multiplied the issue, sorry for your misfortune!!

 

[BrocLuno]

Lesson here, buy only jugs with foil seals ...

 

[RedOakRanch]

That's looks exactly like 5 year old deck stain that has gone bad. I've seen people put motor oil in a stain can and return it but not the other way around?

 

[DIANgEMinONV]

I just started using the Mobil 1 EP in my car just a few hundred miles ago, and after reading about what you are experiencing, I begin to wonder whether it is a good oil or not.

 

[OVERKILL]

Originally Posted By: DIANgEMinONV
I just started using the Mobil 1 EP in my car just a few hundred miles ago, and after reading about what you are experiencing, I begin to wonder whether it is a good oil or not.


Seriously? Dude, the odds of this actually being the oil that the label on the bottle said it was are EXTREMELY remote. It's far more likely somebody swapped out the contents and returned it.

M1 EP is one of the best oils on the market, and likely the only mainstream family of lubricants utilizing significant quantities of PAO in its formula. To second guess it over what we don't know in this thread is absolutely ludicrous.

 

[BrocLuno]

Ludicrous, onward, with gusto

 

[NormanBuntz]

So based on the post by Burrwinder and the fact that the OP lives in Chicago, what's the chance that the original car owner got a tainted oil change in southern Michigan in 2010? I'd say that's just as likely as someone filling the crankcase with a tampered jug of Mobil 1.

 

[Linctex]

Originally Posted By: skyactiv
Someone played a dirty joke and returned oil filled with chainsaw oil or something


Only time I saw that in an engine was when it had vegetable oil in the crankcase.

I think somehow the bottle got returned to walmart with vegetable oil in it.

 

[das_peikko]

That oil is "skinned over" like if you left the lid off a gallon of paint too long.

 

[OVERKILL]

Originally Posted By: NormanBuntz
So based on the post by Burrwinder and the fact that the OP lives in Chicago, what's the chance that the original car owner got a tainted oil change in southern Michigan in 2010? I'd say that's just as likely as someone filling the crankcase with a tampered jug of Mobil 1.


- The OP said he's been changing the oil in this vehicle at reasonable intervals with M1 AFE 0w-20 for the last 4 years.
- This oil was put in the vehicle in November of 2017
- This oil was what resulted in him seeing "goop" on the dipstick which apparently led to this thread
- Based on this goop developing within that ~3 month window, and him obviously NOT seeing that goop when he changed the oil in November or on any previous OCI, one would conclude that this issue came to fruition during this particular OCI
- The OP changed the oil himself and put in what he thought was M1 EP 0w-20, the general consensus appears to be that it isn't M1 EP 0w-20

What does all of this have to do with an oil change in 2010? I fail to see whatever logical leap you are making here in order to state, boldly, that something from what could be 30 oil changes ago has just now, eight years later, decided to manifest in the form of turning his oil into straight Lucas, is just as likely as it being the result of a contents switch by a low-on-ethics Walmart customer.

 

[das_peikko]

Originally Posted By: Linctex
Only time I saw that in an engine was when it had vegetable oil in the crankcase.

I think somehow the bottle got returned to walmart with vegetable oil in it.


Do you really think vegetable oil would make it for 1500 miles? Not being sarcastic; I mean it as a genuine question out of curiosity.

 

[OVERKILL]

Originally Posted By: das_peikko
Originally Posted By: Linctex
Only time I saw that in an engine was when it had vegetable oil in the crankcase.

I think somehow the bottle got returned to walmart with vegetable oil in it.


Do you really think vegetable oil would make it for 1500 miles? Not being sarcastic; I mean it as a genuine question out of curiosity.


Yes. There was actually a member here who intentionally ran it.

 

[PimTac]

Originally Posted By: Linctex
Originally Posted By: skyactiv
Someone played a dirty joke and returned oil filled with chainsaw oil or something


Only time I saw that in an engine was when it had vegetable oil in the crankcase.

I think somehow the bottle got returned to walmart with vegetable oil in it.




I could see some decrepit individual filling the empty M1 bottle with the used oil from a deep fat fryer. There are so many people scamming the system with no consideration for others.

I would be in contact with the WalMart manager in this as well. I’ve heard they are tightening up their return policies on motor oil. The Blackstone report will be essential in all of this.

 

[aquariuscsm]

The op said the jug was sealed and nothing looked unusual when he cracked the seal and poured it in his engine. Anyone can tell if a seal has been tampered with upon opening. There's no way a foil seal can be re-sealed with factory precision.

 

[OVERKILL]

Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
The op said the jug was sealed and nothing looked unusual when he cracked the seal and poured it in his engine. Anyone can tell if a seal has been tampered with upon opening. There's no way a foil seal can be re-sealed with factory precision.


Where did he say that? Closest I can see is this post:

Originally Posted By: Jooksing


Oil seemed fine going in.. nothing unusual that I can recall. Nothing was opened. (I would not even put it in if I noticed something was off.

It was near 60F on sunday and the gopp looked less viscous but still thick.


Which makes no mention of the foil seal. Some oils don't even use a seal (PennzoIl) so if it wasn't there at all he might simply not have noticed....

 

[das_peikko]

Originally Posted By: skyactiv
I highly, highly doubt Mobil is to blame here.


Let me ask you this: If you bought a 5 quart bottle of Mobil 1 oil with what was perceived to be a factory seal on the bottle; and you proceeded in good faith to pour that oil into the crankcase because you believed that seal to be a genuine factory seal; and the oil pouring out of the bottle looked to be real motor oil in appearance; would you still blame yourself for ruining the engine?

 

[aquariuscsm]

Originally Posted By: OVERKILL
Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
The op said the jug was sealed and nothing looked unusual when he cracked the seal and poured it in his engine. Anyone can tell if a seal has been tampered with upon opening. There's no way a foil seal can be re-sealed with factory precision.


Where did he say that? Closest I can see is this post:

Originally Posted By: Jooksing


Oil seemed fine going in.. nothing unusual that I can recall. Nothing was opened. (I would not even put it in if I noticed something was off.

It was near 60F on sunday and the gopp looked less viscous but still thick.


Which makes no mention of the foil seal. Some oils don't even use a seal (PennzoIl) so if it wasn't there at all he might simply not have noticed....

From reading his posts he seems like a seasoned car guy who's always done his own maintanence. Even the uptmost novice could tell if something was "off" when opening and pouring in brand new motor oil.

 

[OVERKILL]

Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
Originally Posted By: OVERKILL
Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
The op said the jug was sealed and nothing looked unusual when he cracked the seal and poured it in his engine. Anyone can tell if a seal has been tampered with upon opening. There's no way a foil seal can be re-sealed with factory precision.


Where did he say that? Closest I can see is this post:

Originally Posted By: Jooksing


Oil seemed fine going in.. nothing unusual that I can recall. Nothing was opened. (I would not even put it in if I noticed something was off.

It was near 60F on sunday and the gopp looked less viscous but still thick.


Which makes no mention of the foil seal. Some oils don't even use a seal (PennzoIl) so if it wasn't there at all he might simply not have noticed....

From reading his posts he seems like a seasoned car guy who's always done his own maintanence. Even the uptmost novice could tell if something was "off" when opening and pouring in brand new motor oil.


So if you opened a "sealed" bottle of Pennzoil 0w-20, you could tell the difference between it (keep in mind, you aren't looking for anything unusual, you've done this a million times) and say some straight ND 20 weight? What about a lightweight hydraulic oil similar in viscosity and colour?

The foil seal is the difference with the Mobil product, so I'm curious to see if he recalls removing it on this particular oil change, a question which, despite your posit to the contrary, has not been directly answered.

Please don't mistake my pedanticism here for rudeness. This is a bizarre situation and so having a full and accurate account of every detail is extremely important. There's a lot hinging on the product in the jug matching or not matching what is on the jug and that in turn will determine culpability and potential recourse.