When I drained the TGMO out of my Highlander (700ppm Moly) and put in my Amsoil (200ppm moly) I didn't hear any difference.
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Originally Posted by avi1777
only the castrol stop start is up for the mazda spec have u used it?
tnx
I forgot you have the stop/start system. Castrol Magnatec is a good oil for that. Castrol pays Mazda a commission to advertise their oil.
Use can use ANY SN+ and d1G2 0w20 oil in your Mazda with no worries. You are thinking about this way too much.
only the castrol stop start is up for the mazda spec have u used it?
tnx
I forgot you have the stop/start system. Castrol Magnatec is a good oil for that. Castrol pays Mazda a commission to advertise their oil.
Use can use ANY SN+ and d1G2 0w20 oil in your Mazda with no worries. You are thinking about this way too much.
Originally Posted by PimTac
Originally Posted by avi1777
only the castrol stop start is up for the mazda spec have u used it?
tnx
I forgot you have the stop/start system. Castrol Magnatec is a good oil for that. Castrol pays Mazda a commission to advertise their oil.
Use can use ANY SN+ and d1G2 0w20 oil in your Mazda with no worries. You are thinking about this way too much.
we use 5w30 and you are right i just want a strong oil with low noack because own a direct injection car and sufferd from clogged valves in the past.
Originally Posted by avi1777
only the castrol stop start is up for the mazda spec have u used it?
tnx
I forgot you have the stop/start system. Castrol Magnatec is a good oil for that. Castrol pays Mazda a commission to advertise their oil.
Use can use ANY SN+ and d1G2 0w20 oil in your Mazda with no worries. You are thinking about this way too much.
we use 5w30 and you are right i just want a strong oil with low noack because own a direct injection car and sufferd from clogged valves in the past.
Originally Posted by avi1777
its strange m1 claim noack of 8 or so but in reality their oil evaporates fast.
It does, huh? Maybe you should email ExxonMobil and tell them, perhaps they have no idea.
Capitalize it correctly when you do though, it will make you look more credible.
its strange m1 claim noack of 8 or so but in reality their oil evaporates fast.
It does, huh? Maybe you should email ExxonMobil and tell them, perhaps they have no idea.
Capitalize it correctly when you do though, it will make you look more credible.
Originally Posted by avi1777
and your problem is?
No problem here, you are the one who posted their Noack value was incorrect. If you're sure of that why wouldn't you tell them?
and your problem is?
No problem here, you are the one who posted their Noack value was incorrect. If you're sure of that why wouldn't you tell them?
Well I didn't say that wasn't the number. I don't have the apparatus nor the need to run ASTM D5800 so I wouldn't know if it was inaccurate or not.
Originally Posted by avi1777
read somewhere thats the number u can correct me if im wrong im not a specialist it will be better for the group and less cynical towards me,u see? a win win for all.
Are we still talking 5W30s here?
Have seen around 10% for M1 5W30 a few times, including the PQIA.
M1 5W30 EP was 9% per the Russian Oil Club and (IIRC) an Amsoil study.
M1 5W30 AP was 8.5% according to the PQIA.
M1 5W30 ESP Formula was around 6% by the ROC and another source I lost track of. Don't know Noack loss for the new ESP.
read somewhere thats the number u can correct me if im wrong im not a specialist it will be better for the group and less cynical towards me,u see? a win win for all.
Are we still talking 5W30s here?
Have seen around 10% for M1 5W30 a few times, including the PQIA.
M1 5W30 EP was 9% per the Russian Oil Club and (IIRC) an Amsoil study.
M1 5W30 AP was 8.5% according to the PQIA.
M1 5W30 ESP Formula was around 6% by the ROC and another source I lost track of. Don't know Noack loss for the new ESP.
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Originally Posted by PimTac
Originally Posted by avi1777
its strange m1 claim noack of 8 or so but in reality their oil evaporates fast.
Statements like this expose you. There is one way to solve this.
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didnt get u sorry
Originally Posted by avi1777
its strange m1 claim noack of 8 or so but in reality their oil evaporates fast.
Statements like this expose you. There is one way to solve this.
Bye. ⬛ï¸â¬›ï¸â¬›ï¸â¬›ï¸â¬›ï¸
didnt get u sorry
Originally Posted by Virtus_Probi
Originally Posted by avi1777
read somewhere thats the number u can correct me if im wrong im not a specialist it will be better for the group and less cynical towards me,u see? a win win for all.
Are we still talking 5W30s here?
Have seen around 10% for M1 5W30 a few times, including the PQIA.
M1 5W30 EP was 9% per the Russian Oil Club and (IIRC) an Amsoil study.
M1 5W30 AP was 8.5% according to the PQIA.
M1 5W30 ESP Formula was around 6% by the ROC and another source I lost track of. Don't know Noack loss for the new ESP.
yes i do tnx wonder whats the noack on the valvoline synpower and castrol start stop both 5w30
Originally Posted by avi1777
read somewhere thats the number u can correct me if im wrong im not a specialist it will be better for the group and less cynical towards me,u see? a win win for all.
Are we still talking 5W30s here?
Have seen around 10% for M1 5W30 a few times, including the PQIA.
M1 5W30 EP was 9% per the Russian Oil Club and (IIRC) an Amsoil study.
M1 5W30 AP was 8.5% according to the PQIA.
M1 5W30 ESP Formula was around 6% by the ROC and another source I lost track of. Don't know Noack loss for the new ESP.
yes i do tnx wonder whats the noack on the valvoline synpower and castrol start stop both 5w30
Originally Posted by avi1777
Originally Posted by Virtus_Probi
Originally Posted by avi1777
read somewhere thats the number u can correct me if im wrong im not a specialist it will be better for the group and less cynical towards me,u see? a win win for all.
Are we still talking 5W30s here?
Have seen around 10% for M1 5W30 a few times, including the PQIA.
M1 5W30 EP was 9% per the Russian Oil Club and (IIRC) an Amsoil study.
M1 5W30 AP was 8.5% according to the PQIA.
M1 5W30 ESP Formula was around 6% by the ROC and another source I lost track of. Don't know Noack loss for the new ESP.
yes i do tnx wonder whats the noack on the valvoline synpower and castrol start stop both 5w30
Valvoline Advanced 5W-30 (in USA market) says the Noack is 9.3%. Probably the same stuff you see over there (SynPower, which is what Advanced use to be called). It's also dexos1 Gen2 SN Plus rated, and has HTHS of 3.2. All the good stuff, and has some Moly in the formulation. Just try some and see how it works, that's the only way you're going to see - all the advice here just goes in circles after awhile.
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Originally Posted by Virtus_Probi
Originally Posted by avi1777
read somewhere thats the number u can correct me if im wrong im not a specialist it will be better for the group and less cynical towards me,u see? a win win for all.
Are we still talking 5W30s here?
Have seen around 10% for M1 5W30 a few times, including the PQIA.
M1 5W30 EP was 9% per the Russian Oil Club and (IIRC) an Amsoil study.
M1 5W30 AP was 8.5% according to the PQIA.
M1 5W30 ESP Formula was around 6% by the ROC and another source I lost track of. Don't know Noack loss for the new ESP.
yes i do tnx wonder whats the noack on the valvoline synpower and castrol start stop both 5w30
Valvoline Advanced 5W-30 (in USA market) says the Noack is 9.3%. Probably the same stuff you see over there (SynPower, which is what Advanced use to be called). It's also dexos1 Gen2 SN Plus rated, and has HTHS of 3.2. All the good stuff, and has some Moly in the formulation. Just try some and see how it works, that's the only way you're going to see - all the advice here just goes in circles after awhile.
https://sharena21.springcm.com/Publ...bd3/3aa410a1-0bbd-e711-9c12-ac162d889bd1
Originally Posted by PimTac
Originally Posted by avi1777
only the castrol stop start is up for the mazda spec have u used it?
tnx
I forgot you have the stop/start system. Castrol Magnatec is a good oil for that. Castrol pays Mazda a commission to advertise their oil.
Use can use ANY SN+ and d1G2 0w20 oil in your Mazda with no worries. You are thinking about this way too much.
i cancel the start stop every time hate it its annoying
Originally Posted by avi1777
only the castrol stop start is up for the mazda spec have u used it?
tnx
I forgot you have the stop/start system. Castrol Magnatec is a good oil for that. Castrol pays Mazda a commission to advertise their oil.
Use can use ANY SN+ and d1G2 0w20 oil in your Mazda with no worries. You are thinking about this way too much.
i cancel the start stop every time hate it its annoying
Originally Posted by avi1777
its strange m1 claim noack of 8 or so but in reality their oil evaporates fast.
Hi Avi,
People criticized you because you're confusing oil consumption with oil evaporation. Oil evaporation is not something you can measure without a proper apparatus.
In a healthy engine, oil evaporation is only about 1/3 of the total oil consumption. The rest happens through the valve-stem oil seals, rings, PCV, and oil leaks. The consumption through the valve-stem oil seals greatly increases with decreasing viscosity.
If an engine consumes a lot of oil, the Noack won't make much difference.
M1 oils all have low Noack values, about 10% for 5W-30.
its strange m1 claim noack of 8 or so but in reality their oil evaporates fast.
Hi Avi,
People criticized you because you're confusing oil consumption with oil evaporation. Oil evaporation is not something you can measure without a proper apparatus.
In a healthy engine, oil evaporation is only about 1/3 of the total oil consumption. The rest happens through the valve-stem oil seals, rings, PCV, and oil leaks. The consumption through the valve-stem oil seals greatly increases with decreasing viscosity.
If an engine consumes a lot of oil, the Noack won't make much difference.
M1 oils all have low Noack values, about 10% for 5W-30.
Originally Posted by Gokhan
Originally Posted by avi1777
its strange m1 claim noack of 8 or so but in reality their oil evaporates fast.
Hi Avi,
People criticized you because you're confusing oil consumption with oil evaporation. Oil evaporation is not something you can measure without a proper apparatus.
In a healthy engine, oil evaporation is only about 1/3 of the total oil consumption. The rest happens through the valve-stem oil seals, rings, PCV, and oil leaks. The consumption through the valve-stem oil seals greatly increases with decreasing viscosity.
If an engine consumes a lot of oil, the Noack won't make much difference.
M1 oils all have low Noack values, about 10% for 5W-30.
i do appreciate your comment but why am i here if not to learn..tnx a lot guys i do appreciate your time and effort.
Originally Posted by avi1777
its strange m1 claim noack of 8 or so but in reality their oil evaporates fast.
Hi Avi,
People criticized you because you're confusing oil consumption with oil evaporation. Oil evaporation is not something you can measure without a proper apparatus.
In a healthy engine, oil evaporation is only about 1/3 of the total oil consumption. The rest happens through the valve-stem oil seals, rings, PCV, and oil leaks. The consumption through the valve-stem oil seals greatly increases with decreasing viscosity.
If an engine consumes a lot of oil, the Noack won't make much difference.
M1 oils all have low Noack values, about 10% for 5W-30.
i do appreciate your comment but why am i here if not to learn..tnx a lot guys i do appreciate your time and effort.
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Originally Posted by Gokhan
In a healthy engine, oil evaporation is only about 1/3 of the total oil consumption. The rest happens through the valve-stem oil seals, rings, PCV, and oil leaks.
Any oil evaporation from heat will be going through the PCV system, unless the engine has open to atmosphere breathers.
In a healthy engine, oil evaporation is only about 1/3 of the total oil consumption. The rest happens through the valve-stem oil seals, rings, PCV, and oil leaks.
Any oil evaporation from heat will be going through the PCV system, unless the engine has open to atmosphere breathers.
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