Lowest NOACK Synthetic 5W30 for Non - Turbo GDI ?

[1JZ_E46]

Originally Posted By: Primus
Similar situation may be with Original BMW Engine Oil Twin Power Turbo 5w30 (ACEA A3/B4, API SL, BMW Longlife-01) which showed 6.2% at PQIA:

http://pqiadata.org/BMW_5W30.html


It’s too bad BMW discontinued their LL-01 5w30. They will only carry the LL-01 FE 0W-30 going forward.

 

[dailydriver]

Originally Posted By: Patman
Apparently M1 ESP 5w30 has a Noack of 5.6%.


Yup, but GOOD LUCK finding it on ANY Wal Mart shelf, let alone anywhere for less than $9.xx/quart.

 

[dailydriver]

Originally Posted By: john_pifer
Originally Posted By: buster
Originally Posted By: Gokhan
Mobil 1 AP 5w30. which is GTL + PAO, has the lowest NOACK (8.5%) according to PQIA.


That's a nice NOACK number for a 5w30. Good juice.


Better be, for $10/quart at Walmart.


It is not on my local Sino Mart shelves FOR ANY PRICE around here.

 

[dailydriver]

Originally Posted By: Gokhan
It's been rolled back to $8/qt. Still too expensive with respect to the competition.


Correct, as I paid less than that WITH shipping for the fully PAO/POE based, 0.8 SA, 6.2 NOACK, and BIG anti-wear/anti-friction add packed, Ravenol REP 5w30 which is going in for the summer OCI.

 

[dailydriver]

Originally Posted By: Whimsey
You can get it in 5 qt jugs for $40($8/qt) at Walmart. Or you can get regular Mobil 1 5w30 with a NOAK of 10 for ~$26 for a 5 qt jug at Walmart.


I did not even know that XOM produced this in jug sized containers.

WHICH Wal Mart stores in Joyzee have this stuff on the shelves??

 

[Primus]

Originally Posted By: 1JZ_E46
Originally Posted By: Primus
Similar situation may be with Original BMW Engine Oil Twin Power Turbo 5w30 (ACEA A3/B4, API SL, BMW Longlife-01) which showed 6.2% at PQIA:

http://pqiadata.org/BMW_5W30.html


It’s too bad BMW discontinued their LL-01 5w30. They will only carry the LL-01 FE 0W-30 going forward.


I guess there are still some inventories somewhere. I just had a look at spec of Shell Helix Ultra Professional AB 5w30 and it seems the same oil.

 

[Gokhan]

Again, if you're just looking for the lowest NOACK, nothing will beat PPPP 10W-30 with its 4.7%. It's practically a SAE 30 straight grade.

Any oil with NOACK less than 7% or so must be GTL or PAO unless it's a 15W or 20W.

I'm skeptical about M1 ESP 5w30. Mobil said it was Group III with no PAO or GTL. There is no reason to believe data posted without a solid reference on an obscure blog.

 

[harrydog]

Originally Posted By: dailydriver
Originally Posted By: Gokhan
It's been rolled back to $8/qt. Still too expensive with respect to the competition.


Correct, as I paid less than that WITH shipping for the fully PAO/POE based, 0.8 SA, 6.2 NOACK, and BIG anti-wear/anti-friction add packed, Ravenol REP 5w30 which is going in for the summer OCI.

I'd be interested to know where you got the Ravenol from. I'd really like to get some if I can find it for a decent price.

 

[edyvw]

Originally Posted By: 4WD
At one time it was only made in France … not sure if they have added BMT or somewhere else …

Still Made in France as well as in Finland.

 

[edyvw]

Originally Posted By: Gokhan
Again, if you're just looking for the lowest NOACK, nothing will beat PPPP 10W-30 with its 4.7%. It's practically a SAE 30 straight grade.

Any oil with NOACK less than 7% or so must be GTL or PAO unless it's a 15W or 20W.

I'm skeptical about M1 ESP 5w30. Mobil said it was Group III with no PAO or GTL. There is no reason to believe data posted without a solid reference on an obscure blog.

I am not sure how that testing is obscured? I do not find it more or less obscure then PQIA which you constantly quote.
Some of PQIA tests and comparisons are true insult to intelligence.
Let's remember that true NOACK value also depends on methodology and probably manufacturer knows exactly the percentage.
Considering that NOACK of old M1 0W40 was 8.7%, it is possible that ESP has very low NOACK as they shared base oils.

 

[dailydriver]

Originally Posted By: harrydog
Originally Posted By: dailydriver
Originally Posted By: Gokhan
It's been rolled back to $8/qt. Still too expensive with respect to the competition.


Correct, as I paid less than that WITH shipping for the fully PAO/POE based, 0.8 SA, 6.2 NOACK, and BIG anti-wear/anti-friction add packed, Ravenol REP 5w30 which is going in for the summer OCI.

I'd be interested to know where you got the Ravenol from. I'd really like to get some if I can find it for a decent price.


I got it at Blauparts, based in Wisconsin (not sure I am allowed to post up their site addy?) as they are the ONLY current distributor in all of NA/USA currently.

Admittedly, I got it on a 17% 'tax day' discount, in the 5 liter jug, with free shipping since I spent over $100.00 (before discount) by adding other Ravenol products (their excellent MTF-2 being one of them), but they offer these discounts often if you sign up on their site.