Li Ion batteries, yay or nay?

[Oillover]

Recently I purchased a used motorcycle that the PO installed one of these batteries.
I've never seen one of these nor have I maintained one. The one thing that really struck me, way how light it is - it literally feels no heavier than my cell phone!

Since the bike is going into storage for the next 4-5 months, I was going to put the battery on a maintainer. My Noco has a Li Ion setting, but I'm still a little uncomfortable with connecting it to the battery as I've heard stories of batteries exploding etc (a bit dramatic yes, but still, I'm a little weary of new tech).
Should I be concerned about using this thing? I almost feel more comfortable with the old-school style of battery.

thanks in advance

 

[vpr5703]

Most of these batteries aren't Li-Ion IIRC, but Lithium Iron Phosphate. These types are much safer than LiIon as far as risk of it exploding is concerned. As for the maintainer as long as it does its job correctly it will stop charging the battery when it is done, as there is no real "maintaining" you need to do with a Lithium battery.

 

[Rand]

I would just disconnect the battery(take it inside if possible) and charge it before using it in 5 months.
there is no penalty for not being 100% charged (unlike lead acid battery)

 

[tnt_motorsports]

I'd charge the battery and then store it. Don't use a maintainer on a Li Ion battery.

Just my $0.02

 

[Rand]

I'd charge the battery and then store it. Don't use a maintainer on a Li Ion battery.

Just my $0.02

He needs to figure out if its regular or Lithium Iron Phosphate.
if its regular.. not charging it would be better.

 

[zzyzzx]

Since the bike is going into storage for the next 4-5 months,

Obligatory:

 

[twX]

The best way to store lithium batteries is at a partial charge in a cool environment. They'll degrade twice as quickly at 100% vs 85-90% charge, so I'd drain it a bit by leaving the headlights on for a while, and then disconnect the battery cables.

It should be fine without any charging in the spring, but check to make sure the voltage is at least 13.0 V, otherwise it will have a very large charging current, which could put a lot of strain on your bike's generator.

If you want to charge it and you're unsure about your charger compatibility, monitor the charging voltage with a multimeter. A safe charging voltage for a 4-cell LiFePo battery is 14.6 V or less. Only voltages higher than a motorcyle's typical 14-15 V are going to damage the battery.

 

[Hermann]

Obligatory:
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What happened there.

 

[2010Civic]

Yep, no need to have a lithium battery on a maintainer.

 

[zzyzzx]

What happened there.

Storage unit fire.

 

[JHZR2]

Most of these batteries aren't Li-Ion IIRC, but Lithium Iron Phosphate. These types are much safer than LiIon as far as risk of it exploding is concerned. As for the maintainer as long as it does its job correctly it will stop charging the battery when it is done, as there is no real "maintaining" you need to do with a Lithium battery.

LFP is a Li-ion battery. Just a different cathode chemistry.

Electrolyte is the major fire driver and LFP still has it.

 

[Oillover]

He needs to figure out if its regular or Lithium Iron Phosphate.
if its regular.. not charging it would be better.

Not sure if that information is in this link, but this is the battery.
https://www.yuasabatteries.com/battery/ytz14s/

Thanks in advance.

 

[Pablo]

Here for the Li fire pictures!

Charge it partially. Disconnect. Don't worry about.

Li batteries don't just combustulate and burn hotter than the sun and go all Chernobyl just sitting there for no reason. That just the hype of scare wieners.

For such small batteries in the rare case of a fire it's the cheapie charger or controller electronics going south. In larger ones, in the really rare case of failure under load, it's some kind of external short or crappie controller that is the cause.

I saw a Mazda micro van thing in full combustialiss infertato, dead, off to the left yesterday. Gas powered.

 

[Rand]

Not sure if that information is in this link, but this is the battery.
https://www.yuasabatteries.com/battery/ytz14s/

Thanks in advance.

That is a lead acid battery. Put it on maintainer for winter or charge and disconnect.

 

[Oillover]

That is a lead acid battery. Put it on maintainer for winter or charge and disconnect.

I'm sorry, I included the wrong link.
My battery looks exactly like this, with the button tester thingy on the top too
https://www.skyrichbattery.com/product_info.php?products_id=573

 

[Rand]

looks like that? can we get a pic of yours containing the model and brand?

btw this link made me LOL

skyrich Powersport Lithium Ion Batteries

We are innovative and we care about the environment. We say, "No more pollution of our earth!" Our younger generation needs a clean and healthy environment to live and enjoy. Everyone needs clean soil, unpolluted water, and fresh air. We give you our pollution-free batteries.

 

[Oillover]

looks like that? can we get a pic of yours containing the model and brand?

I updated post #15 with the link

 

[Rand]

I updated post #15 with the link

is that the actual battery you have?.. the linked battery doesnt match the picture

 

[Oillover]

is that the actual battery you have?.. the linked battery doesnt match the picture

 

[Rand]

pic

so if you go out to the motorcycle that is the exact battery(model numbers match etc) or maybe the battery or looks like the battery or what?

They dont list much for specs. but apparently if it dies you can use it as a flower pot.