Jeep Wrangler JK Owners READ This

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This is pulled from one of the Jeep forums. I just thought it wise for all Jeep owners to see this:

"Blown Engine, But No Mopar Oil Filter = No Warranty Coverage.
So long story short, my 2015 JKU with 15k on it needs a new motor at a cost to me of over $6,000 and Jeep is refusing to pay for it.

There is a spring/mechanism under the oil filter cap. That mechanism broke on my Jeep, causing a loss of oil pressure, increased friction, resulting in the need for a new engine.

My Jeep was towed in to my local Jeep dealer and has been there (so far) for nearly a month. Just yesterday they finally called me with an "update" saying that they're not covering it and I should see if my insurance company will. I called many many times and every time either got told "we don't know" or "we're waiting to hear from Chrysler" or just put on an indefinite hold only to be hung up on. So again, long story short, they said that they're not covering it because I don't have a Mopar oil filter in the Jeep despite the fact that that's not even the part that caused the failure. I am beyond livid and it's ridiculous that they're trying to pin this on me. Even in the owners manual it only says that the Mopar brand filter is "recommended" but nothing about the Mopar branded one being required.

Just figured I'd put this [censored] of a story out there for those of you who care and/or are trying to decide if you should use a Mopar filter or not.

I'm currently in talks with the Chrysler Customer Assistance Group and have an open case. So we'll see what happens. In the last year and a half my immediate family alone has bought over $160,000 worth of new FCA vehicles, plus the literally dozens of ones we and I have owned in the past. The fact that the dealer would give me such poor treatment and FCA doesn't seem to care about a customer's family who is about as loyal as it gets, and that they're looking for any way out of paying for what should be a no-brainer of a warranty repair is a disgrace.

I don't know if they'll do the right thing and honor their warranty, but this may very well be my last FCA product. It's a shame to find out this way that they don't care about their customers."

Due to this I'll definitely be running Mopar filters only, just in case.

Off the top of my head I am uncertain of the oil type and oil change intervals on my 2015. I believe it's 5w20? And I've seen 8,000 to 10,000 miles thrown around if using synthetic. Can anyone confirm?

Thanks,
 
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You can hire a lawyer and they will cave. A friend of mine bought a 2014 Ram Laramie brand new and it would leak water from the back and flood the floor. It was taken in 4 times for warranty repair and the problem only got worse. He took it back the fifth time after the floorboards were soaked and wanted it fixed and the carpet replaced due to mold. They refused so he was forced to get a lawyer. 7 months later Chrysler gave him and identical 2015 model and took his "old" one.

Don't give up.
 
Absolutely agreed that an attorney in this situation should be able to mediate so the Jeep owner wins. Thankfully I saw this just prior to my first oil change so I don't have to go through this hassle. I'm just going to purchase Mopar oil filters.
 
don't you get "free" 3rd party arbitration if you go the lemon law route? Id have a sit down woth the owner and service manager.
They don't have a leg. Went though this with park porsche audi on a lemon audi 100ls oil burner. They were steadfast until we were sitting in the hall of the courtroom! Paid me for the full price of the car and let me keep the car.
 
First, don't get emotional. Ask to see the failed part. If they don't have the part, tell them to fix or replace the car and give you an itemized bill. Then tell them you will file against them in small claims court. Or else, have an attorney write them a nice letter stating the law.
 
I am a little confused here. So the non-Mopar filter is fine and not broken in any way to cause the problem and they are denying the warranty because a non-Mopar filter is being used?

If so, that is total [censored].
 
Yep, time to lawyer up.

Jeep may be a foreign manufacturer but if they're doing business here they have to follow the laws here.

Keep a log of every interaction with time, date, contact info and notes. OCD works.
 
this sounds like an easy Magnesson Moss warranty violation, at the very least. and why would insurance cover this??? obvious a diversion by the dealer (that seemed to have worked)
 
All I can think is one of 2 scenarios:

1.Either FCA is telling dealers to limit high dollar warranties (due to the recent fines by the Feds and due to their high dollar trailer hitch recalls and RAM buyback programs)
2>or..the dealer knows it wont make any money on a warranty job,so they would rather sell it to you at retail...
 
Originally Posted By: tomcat27
this sounds like an easy Magnesson Moss warranty violation, at the very least. and why would insurance cover this??? obvious a diversion by the dealer (that seemed to have worked)


Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act while simple in language, is not a magic set of words when spoken fixes all. It is a Federal law and with the FTC having oversight. At a personal level, the Feds are not dispatching lawyers on every victims behalf or arresting dealers or corporate henchmen for violating it.

What MMWA does, is give any complainant to file in Federal Court and bring a civil suit for claim of violation. In the real world, that means a complainant has to pay out of pocket up front and hire an attorney to bring suit with the eventual hope for getting the original issue at hand addressed and if lucky, compensated for attorney fees.

Even in this case at $6K for an engine, most people would be spending way more than that in legal fees upfront to bring a MMWA suit. So MMWA is not all it seems to be even though it is thrown out there by most internet armchair lawyers.
 
Loss of oil pressure and no warning from a light? Something is very wrong here. It should be interesting to see how this plays out. Lawyer time...........
 
Originally Posted By: dishdude
mrsilv04 just posted that Wix redesigned the endcap on the filter and how the bypass works with the canister cap.

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubb...fre#Post3871065

I wonder if some aftermarket filters were in fact not built to spec. If the filter did in fact cause the engine damage, I would think the claim would be with the filter manufacturer.


That is for the 2013 & back design filters. Not applicable for the 2014+ design filters that would be used in this case.
 
If this was an aftermarket engine oil filter designed to fit your specific vehicle, they can't deny warranty coverage because of the filter alone. Like said above: Review the MMWA. I would (as cool/calm as possible) mention this to this dealer's management and service writer that this is the route you are going.
 
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