Originally Posted By: simple_gifts
Jeep is like Harley Davidson in that there is some sort satisfaction or cache associated with owning one regardless of the perceived quality. I would not buy a compass, since it appears it shows up on many 'avoid or regret' lists; a new design wouldn't not allay my fears since my confidence is their producing a 'very high quality' product (salesman's words) out of the gate is close to zero. Should I mention the (2) year old GC that is @ the dealer for "loss of power?"
A woman @ work bought a Patriot against all recommendations of her auto knowledgeable friends recommendations because it was a good deal (it was) and 'she wanted a jeep'; I have no problems with that, but she should not expect it to be like the 2004 camry she gave to her daughter who needed a car in a pinch.
Summarizing, if you don't 'really want a jeep' there are almost no compelling reasons to consider this over many other vehicles.
Some very valuable advice in this thread, I am not going to be considering it. I already have a voice mail on my phone from the salesman. He said I could be driving it by the end of the day.
I wasn't thrilled how they dealt with my neighbors issue, meanwhile sometimes it won't move at a light, that is totally unacceptable. They told him to log things with a scantool and record it and bring it back, see what fails first. They said they aren't sure what is going on. He said if he wanted to mess with cars he didn't have to pay 50K for one. He told them flat out if it happens again it is getting lemoned.
He told me he had a tuned v8 AWD loaded 2000 Limited Explorer and it was much better than the POS he has now. Never a single issue. He traded it years ago in C4C and is very sorry he did. He has is eye on ebay for desert one. He also accepted some electrical issues for the Jeep and they compromised with some money back, he said it should probably be a lemon, and the next issue will confirm it. They also did work on the valve body of the trans. He thinks the newer Jeeps are built to the minimum cost and quality, and like a Walmart TV you throw it away when it breaks. The brand has a big following so they are still around. All they got going are slick salesmen.