I need a new dishwasher

[greenjp]

Originally Posted By: MNgopher
Originally Posted By: bubbatime
All the new ones cant clean worth a darn thanks to EPA low water use guidelines. How clean do you think the dishes in the sink will come out if you can only use 1 gallon of water?


I've seen this posted multiple times in this thread. Reality is it just isn't true.

x2 This is pure nonsense. I just replaced a ~12 year old Kenmore/Whirlpool that worked just fine (aside from going through chopper blades on the regular) with a GE that works just fine. The dishes come out "darn clean" and it's quiet.

jeff

 

[billt460]

Originally Posted By: MNgopher
I've seen this posted multiple times in this thread. Reality is it just isn't true. A properly designed and engineered unit does just fine - you just have to be willing to pay for it... Buy cheap garbage and we are surprised at the results?


This is true. Dishwashers are no different than anything else in life. You get only what you pay for. Our cheap builder grade unit that came with our house 20 years ago used plenty of water. It was also noisy and didn't clean worth a dam. This new Whirlpool uses less water and cleans the dishes cleaner than any dishwasher we've ever had. The cycle times are longer, but it's not like you're waiting for the thing to finish. Ours is so quiet we usually start it when we go to bed. It runs while we sleep.

 

[SteveSRT8]

Originally Posted By: billt460
Originally Posted By: paulri
I have had Whirlpool appliances in the kitchen and garage for 20 years now. I'm a believer in their quality, so I specifically look for that label, or the Whirlpool-made no-name brands.


We just replaced our dishwasher a few months ago with this Whirlpool Model, and we couldn't be happier. Very high quality. Extremely quiet. And it cleans the dishes SPOTLESS.

https://www.lowes.com/pd/Whirlpool-47-De...STAR/1000237535

We had to order it, and it took 3 weeks for it to come in, but it was well worth the wait. It is all Stainless Steel lined, and all the racks and rollers are of good design, and very high quality. Stay away from Pacific Rim manufacturers. (LG and Samsung). Parts are expensive and difficult to obtain. I just replaced a Samsung fridge with a Whirlpool, and it's a much better unit. I had 2 icemakers go south in it at over $300.00 each.



We bought a Samsung a few years back, it was their top of the line unit. It stunk, it leaked, it never got everything clean. It lost a sensor and their service was the poorest I have ever experienced. Glad to see it replaced by our new Whirlpool unit. Quiet, cleans excellent, looking forward to a long happy term of service....

 

[billt460]

Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
We bought a Samsung a few years back, it was their top of the line unit. It stunk, it leaked, it never got everything clean. It lost a sensor and their service was the poorest I have ever experienced. Glad to see it replaced by our new Whirlpool unit. Quiet, cleans excellent, looking forward to a long happy term of service....


When my second icemaker went out in my Samsung fridge, (It also was giving the ice an unpleasant odor and "plastic taste"), the repair man told me they get the most service calls on Samsung and LG appliances. He also told me their parts were by far the most expensive and difficult to obtain. He quoted me 2 weeks and $355.00 for a new icemaker. (The last one I had put in failed just out of warranty and cost me $368.00 total). So I knew his price was fair.

At that point I gave up and decided to replace the fridge, rather than keep buying faulty icemakers at over three hundred a pop. I had no confidence in the unit. He told me based on the service calls and repairs he makes, that the higher end Whirlpool appliances have the fewest problems. And they are one of the easiest makes to get parts for. And the parts are far more reasonable than the Pacific Rim manufacturers. Because both Samsung and LG over engineer most everything they make, and it's all of modular design. So you have to replace the entire unit instead of just a low cost faulty part.

Since then we have bought both a Whirlpool fridge and dishwasher. And we are very satisfied with both. At this point I see no reason to purchase any other brand. We also have a 55" Samsung LED TV in our bedroom that has nowhere near the picture quality that our 65" Vizio does in our family room. I'm done with anything Samsung.

 

[Andrew1972]

Bosch. Happy 10 year owner now would buy another in a heartbeat.

 

[Leo99]

Think my GE dishwasher has died. It won't drain. The screens were full of junk and all clogged up. Thought cleaning them would have fixed it but it still won't drain. Maybe I'll replace the drain pump and see if that fixes things.

 

[spasm3]

I ended up going with kitchen aid. My wife liked the third top rack for flat items. I know they are part of whirlpool, but racks feel sturdier than the whirlpool gold it replaced.

 

[Leo99]

I pulled my DW and took off the bottom drain and got to the impeller which was all gunked up. Cleaned that and it seems to be working properly.

The new DW with the top shelf are pretty nice. If I need to get one, I'd get one with that 3rd rack.

 

[sleddriver]

Before you buy a new dishwasher, read this:
https://climatechangedispatch.com/doe-regs-are-slowing-down-appliances/

Quote:
He explained it succinctly, saying: “If you brought home any new appliances recently, you no doubt noticed something strange. They look great but take forever to work. The Department of Energy is considering fixing this problem, specifically when it comes to dishwashers, and has asked for public comment.”

The request for comments from DOE’s Energy Efficiency and Renewable Energy Office was triggered by a petition from our esteemed colleagues at the Competitive Enterprise Institute (CEI).

The comment period was short and is now closed, but DOE got over 2300 comments, many quite pointed. For example:

“Make dishwashers great again. It should not take 2-3 hours to clean a dishwasher full of dirty dishes.”

“My dishwasher has a life of its own. It goes on forever while washing my dishes while I wait patiently for it to finish. I am tired of waiting and waiting. Please do something...”

Energy efficiency means doing the same job with less energy. If performance is degraded then this is energy rationing or restriction, not energy efficiency. DOE has no statutory authorization or mandate to impose energy rationing or restriction on appliances.

As CEI suggests by its petition, appliances should first be classed by their performance. Efficiency standards should then be set in such a way that there is no degradation of performance.

Instead, DOE appears to have classified appliances simply according to what they do, without consideration of specific performance. As a result, energy efficiency standards may have been set that degrade performance.

Dishwashers serve an extremely useful purpose, freeing up hundreds of millions of hours of American people’s time every year. Their makers should be allowed to make them work well, not governed by some harebrained federal “energy conservation” mandate from the last century.


It might be a good idea to research just how many hours it will take to run a full load.