Harbor Freight... American Made, Lifetime Warranty

[Hall]

If they follow the rules - and some don't - there pretty specific in order to be able to claim American Made. Its a FTC rule and "All or Virtually All" of the labor and materials are from the USA.

This notion that you can put the last screw in and call it made in USA is not true - if they follow the rules.

People just have to try and bash on Harbor Freight and/or worship Snap On and will grasp anything they can that they think helps their argument.

You are exactly right with the explanation of "Made in..." too.

 

[Hall]

It likely means either final assembly happens here (with components from anywhere) or a certain percent of components were manufactured here (with raw materials from anywhere).

No.... The FTC has rules that cover this scenario as well and everyone has likely seen it. It has to say "Assembled in the USA (from global components)" or similar wording. A picture from the internet shows the back of the packaging for these and it says "Designed and manufactured ... in the US".

Harbor Freight doesn't hide where their products come from. Why would they break FTC rules for this item ?

 

[JoelB]

No.... The FTC has rules that cover this scenario as well and everyone has likely seen it. It has to say "Assembled in the USA (from global components)" or similar wording. A picture from the internet shows the back of the packaging for these and it says "Designed and manufactured ... in the US".

Harbor Freight doesn't hide where their products come from. Why would they break FTC rules for this item ?

As SC stated it says all or virtually all. Proving my point. What is virtually all? How is that enforced? I could say 51% of the components are made in the USA. It's a majority, maybe to me that means virtually all. And 51% of those components could be made in the USA and so on.

The point is not to bash Harbor Freight. It's to say these rules are not absolute and to be careful what you think something slapped on a package really means.

 

[Hall]

What is virtually all?

The FTC answers that....

What does "all or virtually all" mean?
"All or virtually all" means that all significant parts and processing that go into the product must be of U.S. origin. That is, the product should contain no — or negligible — foreign content.

Next, what does "negligible" mean ? Merriam-Webster says

so small or unimportant or of so little consequence as to warrant little or no attention

You suggest 49% composition would qualify and no reasonable person would agree with that, nor would the FTC.

 

[JoelB]

The FTC answers that....


Next, what does "negligible" mean ? Merriam-Webster says


You suggest 49% composition would qualify and no reasonable person would agree with that, nor would the FTC.

Believe what you want to believe. These things are much harder to enforce than you imagine.

 

[Hermann]

When i was pedaling electronics at Radio Shack, they came out with a line of higher quality hand tools for electronics. They had green handle covers. Made in Taiwan. $6.99 back then. (1995) When I closed my store I pilfered two pair of the small needle nose pliers. 30 years later both pair are still excellent. The springs are still good and the hardened tips still have their grooves. Yes, they have been used a lot. I go look at tools these days and what you get for your buck is horrible.

 

[Cherrybomb]

Would I have been better off, and more of a "patriot" if I had purchased these?

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The meaning of the word 'patriot'has changed,I think Klein makes a good tool,regardless of COO

 

[billt460]

.......I think Klein makes a good tool,regardless of COO

I think today Harbor Freight does as well.

 

[JohnnyG]

Well, I'm going to go way out on a limb here and say it means it was made here.

I really can't think of anything else it could mean.

Since there is a city in China called USA, it could mean that!

 

[Rogueman2016s]

I just picked these wire strippers up at Harbor Freight this morning. 100% American made with a lifetime warranty. All but identical to the same Snap-On model selling for $72.00.

These are just $19.99. Over 3-1/2 times less for the same identical product. I wouldn't doubt they're made in the same plant and just badged differently.

snap on wire strippers - Google Shopping

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7 in. Inline Wire Stripper and Cutter

Amazing deals on this 7 In Inline Wire Stripper And Cutter at Harbor Freight. Quality tools & low prices.

www.harborfreight.com

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Impressive deal

 

[Rogueman2016s]

As long as the steel is USA.

 

[Rogueman2016s]

Not channellock, Klein or ideal. But USA made.

 

[wtd]

I just picked these wire strippers up at Harbor Freight this morning. 100% American made with a lifetime warranty. All but identical to the same Snap-On model selling for $72.00.

These are just $19.99. Over 3-1/2 times less for the same identical product. I wouldn't doubt they're made in the same plant and just badged differently.

snap on wire strippers - Google Shopping

www.google.com

7 in. Inline Wire Stripper and Cutter

Amazing deals on this 7 In Inline Wire Stripper And Cutter at Harbor Freight. Quality tools & low prices.

www.harborfreight.com

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I have the Snap On version and those do look pretty identical to them. The one difference that I see is that the Snap On version strips some smaller gauge wire compared to the Icon ones. My SO ones do 10, 12, 14, 16, 18, and 20 gauge wires.

 

[wtd]

Not channellock, Klein or ideal. But USA made.

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I have these but don't remember what brand they are. I got them off of Amazon.

 

[jkasch]

I like using this one.

https://www.amazon.com/Stripper-Electrical-Klein-Tools-11063W/dp/B00BC39YFQ/?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_w=jbDE4&content-id=amzn1.sym.d0ebfbb2-6761-494f-8e2f-95743b37c35c%3Aamzn1.symc.50e00d6c-ec8b-42ef-bb15-298531ab4497&pf_rd_p=d0ebfbb2-6761-494f-8e2f-95743b37c35c&pf_rd_r=KB1C1FEAS2P170A0604H&pd_rd_wg=2VGJ5&pd_rd_r=d437be58-4030-42eb-8f5e-584a6e2890b5&ref_=pd_gw_ci_mcx_mr_hp_atf_m&th=1

 

[Rogueman2016s]

I like using this one.

https://www.amazon.com/Stripper-Electrical-Klein-Tools-11063W/dp/B00BC39YFQ/?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_w=jbDE4&content-id=amzn1.sym.d0ebfbb2-6761-494f-8e2f-95743b37c35c%3Aamzn1.symc.50e00d6c-ec8b-42ef-bb15-298531ab4497&pf_rd_p=d0ebfbb2-6761-494f-8e2f-95743b37c35c&pf_rd_r=KB1C1FEAS2P170A0604H&pd_rd_wg=2VGJ5&pd_rd_r=d437be58-4030-42eb-8f5e-584a6e2890b5&ref_=pd_gw_ci_mcx_mr_hp_atf_m&th=1

My grandfather worked for NYC transit authority as a train car mechanic they would use that style stripper regularly for electrical work. Believe his are made by ideal.

 

[Rogueman2016s]

I have these but don't remember what brand they are. I got them off of Amazon.

No brand marking on mine either they're not from Amazon my father picked them up a few years ago from a tool vendor

Made by OTC

 

[JHZR2]

Ive found air hammer bits that are USA made at HF. They worked really well.

But still plenty of junk.

 

[Ethan2]

there should be a large astrix on the label

Hey, this is America, learn to speak English. Or at least stop complaining about the “parts” of America that aren’t “in” America until you do

 

[dlundblad]

They have a few items that are US made one of which is a punch set. Been wanting to get one eventually. Supposedly made by Mayhew (sp?) and supposedly is the same as yet cheaper than some tool truck brands.

These strippers are interesting, but I’m not understanding what the gain would be over the traditional style.