Fuel System treatment - Best option for long trip

[ecotourist]

Originally Posted By: dparm
Polyether Amine (PEA) is the proven ingredient, and you need it in a decent quantity. Lots of cleaners have it but at some ridiculous level like 1%.

I'm a bit behind, but last I checked, these are known to have large quantities of PEA in the neighborhood of 20%+:

Red Line SI-1
Amsoil Performance Improver (PI)
Chevron Techron Concentrate
Gumout Regane Fuel System Cleaner

According to the SDS, two Techron Concentrate(s) sold in Canada have 30+% PEA; product codes 266701 & 266702. But (again according to the SDS) Techron Concentrate product code 266368 doesn't have any.

Seems kind of odd that products with the same (or very similar) names would have such different ingredients. Maybe it's the kinder gentler version. Maybe some Canadian jurisdictions don't permit PEA. Or maybe PEA is hidden in the general sounding ingredients. Or maybe I'm just not reading the SDS correctly!

 

[bcossa2001]

Originally Posted By: SatinSilver
Sheesh! Or go to WM and buy some Techron for $6. Done. I can see if the truck was a dirty runner but this one has seen toptier fuel regularly. Not some dirty girl squirrel we're talking about here. That one above is pure overkill.



Dirty girl squirrel???

 

[Rolla07]

An easily accessible one is CRC Guaranteed to Pass fuel system cleaner. Available at WM. I found it seems to do best out of all I have tried. The Gumout is another as is the Techron. I dont know why but I get the impression the techron and gumout has less PEA than the CRC product. I run a bottle once a year a couple tanks prior to winter oil change.

CRC Guaranteed to Pass shows 25-35% PEA by weight.
https://www.fastenal.com/productimages/supplemental/product_docs/CRC%20INDUSTRIES,%20INC_254595.pdf

Amazon has it for 6.38$ per 12 ounce bottle.
https://www.amazon.com/CRC-05063-Guarant...ns+test+formula

 

[Rolla07]

Gumout reflects 10-30% PEA content:
https://3enoro1q5ve12ubndv13jkpk-wpengin...tem-Cleaner.pdf

I cant seem to find the Chevron MSDS that reflects PEA content. I have to say, I do respect companies who do mention the quantity of PEA.

Redline shows 25-35% (on a 2008 MSDS it showed 30-50%)
https://w3apps.phillips66.com/NetMSDS/ViewPDF.aspx?fileName=830019&Language=EN&IssueDate=9%2F20%2F2017&SubFormat=USDS

No PEA in Berryman B12, STP, Lucas

BG44K, & Chevron Techron: I cant find any MSDS showing PEA content

Amsoil PI, shows 25-50%
https://www.amsoil.com/msds/api.pdf

 

[ThankYouma]

Originally Posted By: Rolla07
Gumout reflects 10-30% PEA content:
https://3enoro1q5ve12ubndv13jkpk-wpengin...tem-Cleaner.pdf

I cant seem to find the Chevron MSDS that reflects PEA content. I have to say, I do respect companies who do mention the quantity of PEA.

Redline shows 25-35% (on a 2008 MSDS it showed 30-50%)
https://w3apps.phillips66.com/NetMSDS/ViewPDF.aspx?fileName=830019&Language=EN&IssueDate=9%2F20%2F2017&SubFormat=USDS

No PEA in Berryman B12, STP, Lucas

BG44K, & Chevron Techron: I cant find any MSDS showing PEA content

Amsoil PI, shows 25-50%
https://www.amsoil.com/msds/api.pdf


Yes! Excellent MSDS finds! Thank you!

Originally Posted By: Pajero
amazon has it for $16.49, bottom right corner.

ebay has it for $16.88

Depends on the size of your gas tank. But, 44K is premiere.

Good luck!


Respectfully,

Pajero!


Thank you, Pajero.

 

[dparm]

Originally Posted By: Mossyoakglock
Originally Posted By: dparm
Polyether Amine (PEA) is the proven ingredient, and you need it in a decent quantity. Lots of cleaners have it but at some ridiculous level like 1%.

I'm a bit behind, but last I checked, these are known to have large quantities of PEA in the neighborhood of 20%+:

Red Line SI-1
Amsoil Performance Improver (PI)
Chevron Techron Concentrate
Gumout Regane Fuel System Cleaner


Now that I know what to look for (after doing some quick research) I've narrow down my list to what I can get easily and locally.

Berryman B12
Techron Concentrate
Red Line SI-1

Berryman has Toluene as the main component. How does that compare to PEA? Is it a good cleaner?

Would Berryman be too strong if I were to let it sit in the tank for a week? I would burn around half the tank on the trip so the other half would sit about a week.

I would be filling up with Shell, BP or Exxon at the same time.



PEA is a proven ingredient. There are SAE papers on it, so yes, it's effective.

If you can get Red Line SI-1 locally (I've seen it at Pep Boys and the like), go for it. It also contains a UCL which some people seem to like. Techron Concentrate is also fairly easy to find and is sometimes BOGO. Just dump either one in a full tank of gas and drive the car normally.

 

[ecotourist]

Originally Posted By: Rolla07
I cant seem to find the Chevron MSDS that reflects PEA content. I have to say, I do respect companies who do mention the quantity of PEA.

Here you go:
https://cglapps.chevron.com/msdspds/SDSPage.aspx?directSDSLink=true

 

[Joenpb]

Originally Posted By: JHZR2
Originally Posted By: dparm
Polyether Amine (PEA) is the proven ingredient, and you need it in a decent quantity. Lots of cleaners have it but at some ridiculous level like 1%.

I'm a bit behind, but last I checked, these are known to have large quantities of PEA in the neighborhood of 20%+:

Red Line SI-1
Amsoil Performance Improver (PI)
Chevron Techron Concentrate
Gumout Regane Fuel System Cleaner


Agree with this/this list.


X2

 

[MetalSlug]

On long trip I always using chevron gas + bottle of chevron Techron. On way back same combo