I'm not quite sure where gold chains came from, but it wasn't from my comment. I also didn't insinuate that you were fat, per se.
Originally Posted By: dailydriver
^^^^
**DOUBLE SIGH**
Not that it's ANY of your business, but I'm near 60.
The reason why I asked your age is because I tend to see that people above a certain age that disparage the owners of certain types of cars.
In this case, you fit the mold of disliking the group of people who prefer, turbocharged awd economy sedans. Or, as I refer to them, as Turbo'Roos. These are usually also the same people that like taking Honda Civics, and turning them into Transformer looking cars, with annoying exhaust systems.
Oddly enough, this group of owners are constantly making fun of people who like American Muscle cars, and Corvettes. Throwing around fat, bald, gold chain, veteran plated has-beens, who need just enough storage capacity for their walkers to fit.
They tend to think that their turbo Civics can beat anything in a race, no matter the type of race, and usually have never heard of that big black evil mid 80's Buick car. They are young people, and usually have a very tight budget to work with.
Somewhere in the middle of those two groups is were I reside.
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Just how "light" does something have to be to satisfy your (and the other import ONLY "fanbases'") needs??
NO ONE is going to build a sub-2000 lb. car which will satisfy the CURRENT NHTSA/DOT requirements
without using 100% aerospace/exotic materials, for less than $200K minimum.
(Save for your beloved current Toy-engined Elise, which seems to be able to do it for ~$50k-$75K,
IF one can fit into it.)
Don't quite know where you came up with the Lotus Elise stuff from , but okay.
How little does it need to weigh for me?
As little as possible.
My Boxster tipped the scales at around 2800 lbs.
My RX-8 isn't much heavier, but it seats 4 real sized adults comfortably, front and rear. Can't say that about the Toyota FR-S/Subaru BR-Z twins, the Porsche 911 cars, the Ford Mustang (try and be 6+ feet tall and sit in the back of one of those for a 300 mile trip).
I live in Colorado, so I have both mountain roads to play on, and road course race tracks, like PPIR, and HPR to explore weight transfer and tire adhesion limits on. Lots of people in the US and Canada don't have the variety of roads and tracks that I have here, so they just want cars with big hp numbers, no matter how much they weigh.
The next vehicle on my shopping list will be either a Porsche Cayman, or the Alfa Romeo 4C, if it ever hits production, and gets sold here in the US. Both should be in the same neighborhood as a stripped Corvette, but, unless they completely redesign the style of the Corvette, I really am not interested in them.
My neighbor across the street has one, and I get to hear it fire up and idle in front of their house, pointed directly at mine for 7 minutes or so every morning. Doesn't make me salivate of feel any twinge of jealousy at all. I still think my Boxster and RX-8 sound better, but in completely different ways, than the Corvette.
Actually, it makes me feel sad for the poor engine in the Corvette, with all that fuel dilution that must be happening to the oil.
As for the turbo crowd, they don't care much one way or another about vehicle weight. All they tend to care about is how many PSI's of boost they can stuff into their car, and what the code is of the engine they are swapping into their economy car.
They tend to put ridiculous suspension mods on their car, to either have the car scrape the asphalt off of the road surface, or to have their tires bulge or stretch on their over-sized wheels.
Most Corvette owners have way better taste for vehicle modifications than the Turbo'Roo crowd, in my opinion.
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Old(er) certainly does
NOT have to = fat.
Again, don't know where you think I said you were fat, as it wasn't my intention.
I'm definitely not in the best of shape, but I can pull out health related reasons, like having had hip replacement surgery back in '09, related to a motorcycle accident back when I was 24 that broke my left femur. Lady blew a stop sign up the road from my house, just to fill in a blank, in case your imagination makes you want to come up with a reason for my accident.
In conclusion, for the same money as a base Corvette, I could have a base Boxster, and I would be happier, as the Boxster fits my driving preferences better.
But I love the technology that the Corvettes have been playing with in their drivetrains. Now, lets spend some R&D money on getting the car physically smaller, and lighter, and better quality suspension and interior bits to attract a different buyer segment, while retaining the ever-loyal Corvette buyers group at the same time.
Would that really be a bad thing?
BC.