Originally Posted By: 02SE
Originally Posted By: Shannow
Originally Posted By: 02SE
So I looked up the crime statistics for New Zealand. I was absolutely shocked (not really) to find homicides, assaults, sexual assaults and all sorts of violent crimes. I wonder if those victims shared the same smug naivete, right up until they became helpless victims that could do nothing to protect themselves..
If you looked up the statistics, then you saw the numbers...why not quote them...and what they actually prove to YOU
Homicides...United States 6.53/100,000....New Zealand 0.91...for the mathematically challenged, that's a factor of more than 7, and doesn't back up the point that you are trying to make.
What was your point again ?
They way he talked, I'm surprised there is ANY crime.. But low and behold there are murders, rapes, assaults, etc., etc.
The point? How do you think those victims felt who couldn't legally carry for their own self-defense, even if they wanted to? Do you think they were also smug in their naive belief that nothing could possibly happen to them?
Bottom line: I wouldn't have said anything, if Silk hadn't taken his usual smug, xenophobic poke at the people of the USA. But I guess if one is jealous of the Freedoms and Rights non-Subjects enjoy, then it's not surprising.
It's a matter of perspective. There were about 11,000 homicides in the US by firearms in 2013. By comparison, there was about 36,000 people killed by vehicles in 2016. So the odds of being a homicide victim is about 1/3 that of a vehicular crash. As it is, I don't worry about death from car crashes and I don't fear gun death nor am I packing or live in an area/state that I feel I need to. I believe a lot of the car deaths are due to drinking, drugs, inattention that as a driver you have some control over unless you're hit by someone else. Same with homicides, if you're not a drug dealer or somehow involved in a life of crime, the odds of being a victim are lower still. Oh and suicides account for 21,000 deaths so a gun is more likely to be used for a suicide than a homicide.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_States
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motor_vehicle_fatality_rate_in_U.S._by_year