Castrol Titanium Technology?

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What is this Titanium Technology in the Castrol Edge (Blk bottle)? I've seen claims saying that it exceeds Mobil 1 .
 
That would be marketing at its finest. I used the EDGE 5w20 black jug and didn't think it was special. M1 uses as I believe TIG1 and OVERKILL have said organic additives technology.
 
Look up the patent. It is claimed to be a patented Titanium additive. I doubt Blackstone knows anything about it.

Castrol’s lubricants on the EDGE of tomorrow
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Effects of water contamination in a lubricant demonstrated at BP’s technology centre, UK
1/8 Effects of water contamination in a lubricant demonstrated at BP’s technology centre, UK
A lubricants chemist assesses finished product quality at BP’s Wayne Technology Centre
2/8 A lubricants chemist assesses finished product quality at BP’s Wayne Technology Centre
Castrol development chemists review product performance data
3/8 Castrol development chemists review product performance data
Selecting an individual additive to meet Castrol’s product performance requirements
4/8 Selecting an individual additive to meet Castrol’s product performance requirements
Analysing the composition of Castrol’s proprietary additive technology
5/8 Analysing the composition of Castrol’s proprietary additive technology in New Jersey, USA
A technician prepares for an engine test
6/8 A technician prepares for an engine test at BP’s technology centre, Pangbourne, UK
Measuring an engine component for wear after testing, seen through magnifying glass
7/8 Measuring an engine component for wear after testing, seen through magnifying glass
Engine oil liquid stirred in a blend pot
8/8 Engine oil liquid stirred in a blend pot
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BP Magazine meets the Castrol team behind a new lubricant molecule that responds to the demands of the latest vehicle engines - where oils are under more pressure than ever before
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What are the factors that will most influence the design and manufacture of tomorrow’s cars? It doesn’t take a crystal ball to predict that drivers in the middle of the 21st century will likely be behind the wheels of cleaner, faster and cheaper vehicles. Certainly, the automobile industry is already well on the road to pursuing many of these goals, often driven by government legislation and consumer demands.

Today’s technology has allowed car manufacturers to produce smaller, yet more powerful and efficient engines. Their aim is to deliver increased fuel economy, reduced emissions and high performance. But the focus on down-sizing, turbo-charging and advanced designs have meant engine pressures have almost doubled over the last 30 years.

With the highest pressures found in the camshaft – the area of the engine where parts called lobes meet the valves and push them open – these parts need protection when they come into contact. That comes from a very thin layer of oil.

Today’s engine oils operate under higher temperatures and greater stress than ever before. To address these challenges, BP’s chemists and engineers in its lubricants business have generated a new molecule to provide extra strength in the oil films of its Castrol EDGE product range.
The right chemistry
This technology journey began several years ago in a laboratory in New Jersey, US. “We’re always looking at different chemistries or components that may allow us to enhance performance attributes of our lubricants,” says Mario Esposito, Castrol’s team leader for polymer development and passenger car oils, at the Wayne Technology Center.

“Our research initiatives are essential,” he adds. “We formulate our lubricants around individual, proprietary ingredients, creating a ‘hand crafted’ differentiated offer, and with Castrol EDGE, we aimed to develop a performance additive that made the lubricant stronger.”

Castrol’s team of chemists built that molecule from scratch, as polymer research manager, Richard Sauer explains: “We were assessing a range of transition elements, trying to identify which one would bring value to a finished oil. We needed to assess the advantages of each element, looking at factors such as engine deposits and wear control.

“We looked at how a metal may be incorporated onto a polymer to complete a finished engine oil with the desired performance attributes. Generally speaking, functional polymers bring extra performance characteristics to a completed formula. As well as identifying the chemistry, we also had to work on putting together a viable commercial process.”

"To synthesize a molecule and make it a commercial reality takes a huge global effort over many years."
- Tony Smith

Through their analysis, the chemists pinpointed a titanium molecule that displayed the sought-after characteristics: the additive changes the freezing pressure of the lubricant under extreme pressure and it actively thickens and reinforces the oil film. In an engine, that means it offers greater protection at high-pressure contact points, giving the oil the ability to keep metal surfaces apart more effectively with a cushioning effect.

The laboratory results needed rigorous testing in the real world to make sure that the claims could be substantiated. Castrol’s team in Pangbourne, UK, led this phase of development to formulate the oil and test the effects of titanium to reduce friction and resist film breakdown.

“The next stage involved blending the new formulation with our laboratory technicians to optimize the viscosity of the product and later run the prototype formulations through engine tests,” says Simon Gurney, automotive engineer and senior development technologist. “We test parameters such as impact on engine wear, sludge build-up and piston cleanliness. Some tests can take several weeks to run – the longest was a 900-hour engine test. These are extreme by nature, creating conditions that will never be seen in a car on the road.”

Tests also followed with original equipment manufacturers (OEMs) and other research facilities. “We worked with a Scottish university to independently test the additive under very high pressure,” says senior technologist, Gareth Dowd. “This confirmed that adding the titanium improved fluid strength by changing its physical behaviour.”
 
Good info.

FWIW,Castrol uses their own in-house/developed Ti additive, as mentioned above.
 
Originally Posted By: TTK
Look up the patent. It is claimed to be a patented Titanium additive. I doubt Blackstone knows anything about it.

Castrol’s lubricants on the EDGE of tomorrow
previous slide
Effects of water contamination in a lubricant demonstrated at BP’s technology centre, UK
1/8 Effects of water contamination in a lubricant demonstrated at BP’s technology centre, UK
A lubricants chemist assesses finished product quality at BP’s Wayne Technology Centre
2/8 A lubricants chemist assesses finished product quality at BP’s Wayne Technology Centre
Castrol development chemists review product performance data
3/8 Castrol development chemists review product performance data
Selecting an individual additive to meet Castrol’s product performance requirements
4/8 Selecting an individual additive to meet Castrol’s product performance requirements
Analysing the composition of Castrol’s proprietary additive technology
5/8 Analysing the composition of Castrol’s proprietary additive technology in New Jersey, USA
A technician prepares for an engine test
6/8 A technician prepares for an engine test at BP’s technology centre, Pangbourne, UK
Measuring an engine component for wear after testing, seen through magnifying glass
7/8 Measuring an engine component for wear after testing, seen through magnifying glass
Engine oil liquid stirred in a blend pot
8/8 Engine oil liquid stirred in a blend pot
next slide
slide 1 slide 2 slide 3 slide 4 slide 5 slide 6 slide 7 slide 8
innovations-hr.jpg
Last edited: 6 November 2014
BP Magazine meets the Castrol team behind a new lubricant molecule that responds to the demands of the latest vehicle engines - where oils are under more pressure than ever before
mag-newsletter.jpg
Newsletter sign up
What are the factors that will most influence the design and manufacture of tomorrow’s cars? It doesn’t take a crystal ball to predict that drivers in the middle of the 21st century will likely be behind the wheels of cleaner, faster and cheaper vehicles. Certainly, the automobile industry is already well on the road to pursuing many of these goals, often driven by government legislation and consumer demands.

Today’s technology has allowed car manufacturers to produce smaller, yet more powerful and efficient engines. Their aim is to deliver increased fuel economy, reduced emissions and high performance. But the focus on down-sizing, turbo-charging and advanced designs have meant engine pressures have almost doubled over the last 30 years.

With the highest pressures found in the camshaft – the area of the engine where parts called lobes meet the valves and push them open – these parts need protection when they come into contact. That comes from a very thin layer of oil.

Today’s engine oils operate under higher temperatures and greater stress than ever before. To address these challenges, BP’s chemists and engineers in its lubricants business have generated a new molecule to provide extra strength in the oil films of its Castrol EDGE product range.
The right chemistry
This technology journey began several years ago in a laboratory in New Jersey, US. “We’re always looking at different chemistries or components that may allow us to enhance performance attributes of our lubricants,” says Mario Esposito, Castrol’s team leader for polymer development and passenger car oils, at the Wayne Technology Center.

“Our research initiatives are essential,” he adds. “We formulate our lubricants around individual, proprietary ingredients, creating a ‘hand crafted’ differentiated offer, and with Castrol EDGE, we aimed to develop a performance additive that made the lubricant stronger.”

Castrol’s team of chemists built that molecule from scratch, as polymer research manager, Richard Sauer explains: “We were assessing a range of transition elements, trying to identify which one would bring value to a finished oil. We needed to assess the advantages of each element, looking at factors such as engine deposits and wear control.

“We looked at how a metal may be incorporated onto a polymer to complete a finished engine oil with the desired performance attributes. Generally speaking, functional polymers bring extra performance characteristics to a completed formula. As well as identifying the chemistry, we also had to work on putting together a viable commercial process.”

"To synthesize a molecule and make it a commercial reality takes a huge global effort over many years."
- Tony Smith

Through their analysis, the chemists pinpointed a titanium molecule that displayed the sought-after characteristics: the additive changes the freezing pressure of the lubricant under extreme pressure and it actively thickens and reinforces the oil film. In an engine, that means it offers greater protection at high-pressure contact points, giving the oil the ability to keep metal surfaces apart more effectively with a cushioning effect.

The laboratory results needed rigorous testing in the real world to make sure that the claims could be substantiated. Castrol’s team in Pangbourne, UK, led this phase of development to formulate the oil and test the effects of titanium to reduce friction and resist film breakdown.

“The next stage involved blending the new formulation with our laboratory technicians to optimize the viscosity of the product and later run the prototype formulations through engine tests,” says Simon Gurney, automotive engineer and senior development technologist. “We test parameters such as impact on engine wear, sludge build-up and piston cleanliness. Some tests can take several weeks to run – the longest was a 900-hour engine test. These are extreme by nature, creating conditions that will never be seen in a car on the road.”

Tests also followed with original equipment manufacturers (OEMs) and other research facilities. “We worked with a Scottish university to independently test the additive under very high pressure,” says senior technologist, Gareth Dowd. “This confirmed that adding the titanium improved fluid strength by changing its physical behaviour.”


Patents are public information. Why would they NOT know about it?
 
Phillips 66 has been marketing their "liquid titanium" wear reducing additive motor oils for about 5 years so there is more to these soluble titanium additives than just hype, I believe.
 
And the Castrol gold bottle with Ti did crazy good in the Amsoil published TEOST testing as well... me thinks more to it than marketing, although admittedly Castrol is a master of marketing to the masses.
 
True. The Castrol gold bottle ran very, very well in my Altima. Only Pennzoil Ultra Platinum ran as good as that. It's worth the extra cost in my book. Their oil is stout.
I am liking the Castrol 0w30 right now.
 
Originally Posted By: KingCake
Marketing hype. Blackstone says it doesn't do anything.


Blackstone still get J300 wrong...
 
Originally Posted By: KingCake
Patents are public information. Why would they NOT know about it?

Up until recently, they didn't even know it was an additive. They thought it was contaminant/wear.
 
Originally Posted By: Shannow
Originally Posted By: KingCake
Marketing hype. Blackstone says it doesn't do anything.


Blackstone still get J300 wrong...

It's not that they get J300 wrong. They just don't go by SAE J300. They have their own "expected" viscosity ranges for various used oil grades that they go by.
 
TTK,

Your long post contained the following paragraph....

Castrol’s team of chemists built that molecule from scratch, as polymer research manager, Richard Sauer explains: “We were assessing a range of transition elements, trying to identify which one would bring value to a finished oil. We needed to assess the advantages of each element, looking at factors such as engine deposits and wear control.

One might question the veracity of that statement given that the original 2004 patent had naff all to do with Castrol. I also find it ironic that the guy that wrote the original patent (but was not the actual inventor as such) now works for Vanderbilt who make Molybdenum additives!
 
Joe, you should know how important it is within an organization to be able to claim ownership of "something," even if that ownership is tenuous at best!
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Titanium is just a marketing buzz word that has no real world mechanical protection benefits. Most of the oils using the "technology" are quality enough based on other attributes that they will provide great protection. Some of the companies marketing the diesel oils (won't name any brand in particular) with liquid titanium have issues handling soot loading and cannot be used as long as a new high quality diesel engine oil should be used
 
Originally Posted By: RAINEY
Titanium is just a marketing buzz word that has no real world mechanical protection benefits.


That's what I always thought, but people are acting like they pour in titanium shavings!

Does Pennzoil put GOLD in their synthetic blend products?

Do they put PLATINUM in their full synthetic line?
 
Originally Posted By: bbhero
True. The Castrol gold bottle ran very, very well in my Altima. Only Pennzoil Ultra Platinum ran as good as that. It's worth the extra cost in my book. Their oil is stout.
I am liking the Castrol 0w30 right now.


As good as PUP huh and I can find PUP discounted heavily at AZ as well however finding it at all remains to be an elusive unicorn. This stuff is good for 15k!! ho man
 
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