I thought that was already the case in California.Problem is, the economics of that don't work unless your rates are through the roof.
Plus, if you live someplace prone to power outages, wouldn't you want the battery?
I thought that was already the case in California.Problem is, the economics of that don't work unless your rates are through the roof.
I saw you were in Maryland, so was basing it on that, where I assume rates are reasonable.I thought that was already the case in California.
Plus, if you live someplace prone to power outages, wouldn't you want the battery?
I would want solar and batteries and a genset if I lived in California or Florida.I saw you were in Maryland, so was basing it on that, where I assume rates are reasonable.
A genset is more economically sensible than batteries, so there's that. @UncleDave has a bit genset at his place for that reason (unreliable power in Cali).
I would want solar and batteries and a genset if I lived in California or Florida.
And if it is connected to the grid, and the grid goes down, it will shut down solar to prevent back feeding.
I would want solar and batteries and a genset if I lived in California or Florida.
I can relate to that. The province of Alberta in Canada runs mostly on natural gas. Unlike most of the other provinces, hydro is not much of an option. Oil and Gas was our bread and butter. I can't talk about politics but the plan is to demonize O&G workers.Down here, everyone hates coal employees...within families too...
If you have to pump your own water to live the battery becomes useless almost instantly and you need a stout generator.
Batteries are big bucks. The idea of CA blackouts is overblown, depending on where you live. The last unplanned outage I can remember was in the early 1990's and they lasted less than a couple of hours as I recall. Now other areas can be a different story.I would want solar and batteries and a genset if I lived in California or Florida.
So you aren't expecting it to get any worse?The idea of CA blackouts is overblown, depending on where you live.
Well, I don't have a crystal ball, so I can't say. If there have been no blackouts for over 20 years, then yes, odds are something will happen. You cannot beat 100% up-time.So you aren't expecting it to get any worse?
And I was thinking more along the lines of a multi day outage due to a hurricane or snowstorm.
It depends. I have a well. Variable speed pump. It consumes about 800W with one faucet open. I can run it off an inverter and a deep cycle marine battery.
Septic system has pumps, but it can be off for several days (it has in the past due to a failed UV bulb, waiting for parts, so I turned it off so it wouldn't pump to the drainfield) before the tank fills.
Even then these pumps only consume about 1500 watts and only run for a few minutes at a time.
can't get it to add up here, although I'm strongly considering one with capability of running my house without the grid...we had a 2 week Natural Gas outage last winter (Oz is soone banning NG on new houses and renovations, somes states further ahead than others).If I ever get a soler array it will be with batteries sufficient enough so that any excess generation goes into the battery and not out to the grid.
California rooftop solar installations drop 80% following NEM 3.0 Over 17,000 layoffs have occurred, representing 22% of the industry. More job losses are expected.
The same thing will eventually happen with EV subsidies and government efforts to build more chargers. Also, the State will be colleting a full road tax from EV drivers. Is the party over?Update:
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Over 17,000 layoffs have occurred, representing 22% of the industry. More job losses are expected.pv-magazine-usa.com
Yep, highly correlated intermittent sources succumb to "eating their own", which is well evidenced with the duck curve. The same thing happens with wind.We spoke of the duck curve within the 10 pages of posts so far. Here is the curve from earlier this year. The form of the “ duck “ became obvious around 2017. Now look at it. The net power has hit zero on the left axis. “We got all we can use”. Without storage, there is no where to go. They had no choice but to cut the price for output from future installations.
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