Any FRAM users here?

[Sayjac]

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..... I was reading over my girlfriend's new PureOne filter, and the box says, "Filter's Country of Origin may vary." There was no Made in the USA stamped on the filter, so I cannot be sure that even this filter is domestically produced.

Never seen a Purolator automotive 'canister' filter that's not made in the US. Afaik, all Purolator PC canister filters are made in the US.

As with Fram, who makes some cartridge filters and also Air Filters that are manufactured in China, some Puro cartridges are made in other countries, S Korea being one.

 

[shell_user]

Good point Sayjac. Glad some people like frams and use them. Got little tired of hearing people complain about them.

 

[Hyde244]

Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
Originally Posted By: Hyde244
I was reading over my girlfriend's new PureOne filter, and the box says, "Filter's Country of Origin may vary." There was no Made in the USA stamped on the filter, so I cannot be sure that even this filter is domestically produced.


Cartridge or spin-on filter?
It is a spin-on PL14670.

 

[Sayjac]

Originally Posted By: Hyde244
Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
Originally Posted By: Hyde244
I was reading over my girlfriend's new PureOne filter, and the box says, "Filter's Country of Origin may vary." There was no Made in the USA stamped on the filter, so I cannot be sure that even this filter is domestically produced.


Cartridge or spin-on filter?
It is a spin-on PL14670.

Thought I'd check out a PL14670 while I was at AAP today to see if there's no indication of country of origin on it. While the Puorlator boxes do say "Filter's Country of Origin may vary.", the lable attached to the PL14670 filters I viewed clearly says Made in USA on the end of the filter label. Took some pics to confirm. And there is a code on the top of the can which can be decoded and indicates the manufacturing plant, iirc F = Fayettevile, NC. The PL14670's I looked at all started with F.

As said previously, all the Purolator automotive (pc) canister filters are made in the US, as now are many Bosch, including Bosch D+ and Bosch Prem., and also some Mann oil filters.

 

[Sayjac]

Here's some pics of a PL14670 I looked at today indicating Made in USA on the label in first pic.

 

[ZeeOSix]

I'm kind of curious whey they put "See product for country of origin" on the box, when the box is printed up specifically for the PL14670? They could have easily printed "Made in the U.S.A." on the box instead. Maybe it's a CYA for when they start making these filters out of the country? Only reason I could come up with.

 

[GSCJR]

It's the label that's made in the USA.

 

[Realtech214]

I Had a K&N air filter for a while but than Found out how BAD they are so I use Tough Guard now. I think there good filters. Ive also used a few fram oil filters. I think there just fine

 

[Sayjac]

Quote:
It's the label that's made in the USA.

Code on dome indicates the manufacturing plant. F = Fayetteville, NC. But label made in US...too.

Full code
F= Fayetteville NC
12= Month
D= 2012
20= Day
G= Line#
2= Shift

 

[Mrsandman]

Originally Posted By: motor_oil_madman
cummins has a tsb on this filter advising it to not be used due to it failing and putting debris in the engine and clogging things like piston cooling jets. This was from a long time ago so I don't know if they changed the design,but as far as I know they still have cardboard endcaps so probably not.

Well thats making it pretty clear that these are problematic filters. I'm so glad I have resisted the hype over them through the years. Could be Like poisoning your favorite dog by feeding him some shady pet food. Then your sitting on the porch alone without man's best friend wishing you would been more diligent with your decisions. I don't wanna poison the engines of my well taken care of vehicles and be kicking myself in the rear for it. Thanks for that very real and eye opening info.

 

[ZeeOSix]

Why are you digging up 2+ year old threads all the time? Got some kind of agenda going on ... seems like it.

 

[Mrsandman]

All the time? I do believe today is the first time I've commented on a not recent thread.
Is there something you find disturbing about what I've said or do you just not Like the idea of taking a look back in time a little bit. Besides one could argue 2013 is still sorta recent.
I don't apologize for trying to raise an idea. I think it might make a lot of sense.

 

[ZeeOSix]

A lot of things here have changed over the last 2-1/2 years. Just pointing that out. Digging up old threads to point out bad things about a particular filter has a trollish flavor to it. I guess I could go dig up all those torn Purolator threads that flooded this chat board for a year.

 

[Dallas69]

Fram is so bad that they are the number one filter co.
Use your brain a little.

 

[Mrsandman]

Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
A lot of things here have changed over the last 2-1/2 years. Just pointing that out. Digging up old threads to point out bad things about a particular filter has a trollish flavor to it. I guess I could go dig up all those torn Purolator threads that flooded this chat board for a year.

No it'd not just fram it's any filter that uses cheap material to me. I just happen to agree and I take a memo from a respectable company like cumming (whose diesel engines I work with often as well as others) seriously.
I don't think they would say it I'd it wasn't an issue.

 

[ZeeOSix]

Originally Posted By: Mrsandman
Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
A lot of things here have changed over the last 2-1/2 years. Just pointing that out. Digging up old threads to point out bad things about a particular filter has a trollish flavor to it. I guess I could go dig up all those torn Purolator threads that flooded this chat board for a year.

No it'd not just fram it's any filter that uses cheap material to me. I just happen to agree and I take a memo from a respectable company like cumming (whose diesel engines I work with often as well as others) seriously.
I don't think they would say it I'd it wasn't an issue.


So media that is brittle and configured to allow excessive stress and then tears during use isn't considered "cheap"?

The Fram thing with Cummings happened years ago. And Fram changed the design to rectify the issue. Can't say that about a certain tearing filter ... yet. Maybe they will, maybe they won't. And if they will or did, where is the official message saying they did fix the problem of tearing?

But yeah, I get your viewpoint. Guess it will be no different than 10 or 15 years from now when guys are still talking about the tearing Purolator filters.

 

[Nate1979]

Originally Posted By: Mrsandman
Originally Posted By: motor_oil_madman
cummins has a tsb on this filter advising it to not be used due to it failing and putting debris in the engine and clogging things like piston cooling jets. This was from a long time ago so I don't know if they changed the design,but as far as I know they still have cardboard endcaps so probably not.

Well thats making it pretty clear that these are problematic filters. I'm so glad I have resisted the hype over them through the years. Could be Like poisoning your favorite dog by feeding him some shady pet food. Then your sitting on the porch alone without man's best friend wishing you would been more diligent with your decisions. I don't wanna poison the engines of my well taken care of vehicles and be kicking myself in the rear for it. Thanks for that very real and eye opening info.


Nope. The information was wrong. First that is a 15 year old issue and it wasn't just with Fram but Wix also. And the issue was a certain engine and not industry wide. Unless you owned the specific engine of that specific TSB then your comment is clearly trolling against Fram. Digging up a 2 year old thread about a comment that wasn't even correct is trollish behavior.

 

[Mrsandman]

Sensitivity around here!!!
I stand by my opinion of good solid metal end caps. And Ill let you guys use the cardboard ones.
Maybe fram made changes but their not very apparent by looking at the old ones cut up compared to the new ones but hey it's just my opinion and choice to error on the side of caution.

 

[ZeeOSix]

Yeah, you can't go wrong with using metal end caps. But a lot of non-metal end cap designs do work as they are intended to do. Some have had their issues in the past (ie, SuperTech), but most do seem to work OK. It's a personal choice, just like everything else.

 

[chainblu]

I've used many different brands of filters over the last 30 or so years. Never had a problem with any of them until a while back, when I cut open a Puro Classic with 2 tears in the media.

So, for now, it's pretty much Fram only.