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I saw this today and someone replied...Horrible..."This is unfair to clowns; they know how to do their job."
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I saw this today and someone replied...Horrible..."This is unfair to clowns; they know how to do their job."
FAA grounded them. This flight doesn't operate in the FAA jurisdiction. YYZ - KEF is not flying over the US.I thought the max 9 were all still grounded? Is it only the ones operating out of North America?
At 10,000 feet? Yep, reckon that was unpressurized…talk about slow, noisy, and guzzling fuel…Thought this was interesting. Yesterday Copa flew a MAX-9 from JFK to Panama City, Panama at 10,000’. Rumor was a special flight permit. Must have had to go unpressurized (?)
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Real doors = no legroom. The doors weren’t needed on Max-9s flown by Alaska and United because they had fewer seats, and fewer seats meant that the fuselage could be plugged, since the number of exits is driven by the number of passengers.Also not all max 9s have the plug door. Some use an actual exit door in that position, mostly outside the US. Looks like this one has real doors.
It ALWAYS comes down to $$. Cheaper to design a modular fusalage that can accommodate the loopholes/laws as needed. Isn't it great as an industry to think that way? Becides,emergency exits/slides are more expensive than plugs and they pass those savings onto you!Real doors = no legroom. The doors weren’t needed on Max-9s flown by Alaska and United because they had fewer seats, and fewer seats meant that the fuselage could be plugged, since the number of exits is driven by the number of passengers.
It ALWAYS comes down to $$. Cheaper to design a modular fusalage that can accomidate the loopholes/laws as needed. Isn't it great as an industry to think that way? Becides,emergency exits/slides are more expensive than plugs and they pass those savings onto you!
I'm sure these were negotated laws beween the makers and lawmakers. Safety mechnisims should not be deemed n/a based on the number of passengers, or if the customer bought the "wiz-bang" model vs the base model. That's like saying airbags arn't included because you didn't get the leather seat option, or because you have a 2dr and not a 4dr.
How much is human life worth?
Well, 45 years later - deregulation is here to stay.Again and my opinion which is worth a negative of zero is,,, airline and trucking industry deregulation was a huge mistake.
Any Captain worth his salt would stay on board and ensure all passengers are off before taking the slide himself...If human life was precious to you, then you would not slide down but help others off the plane first, then GTFO. Or at least help those off the slide once you were out, but of course as someone not in the industry, I would be totally wrong with that line of thinking. DO NOT HELP PEOPLE. ONLY HELP YOURSELF. As someone not in the industry, only thing I remember from never flying inside an airliner that when the flight attendant didn't say "Put your mask first, before putting on others."..that is the only "self-serving" instruction (so that YOU can help others once you are still alive/awake), then it's do whatever you can to help w/ respect to following instructions from flight attendant--but of course I would be totally wrong.
It ALWAYS comes down to $$. Cheaper to design a modular fusalage that can accommodate the loopholes/laws as needed. Isn't it great as an industry to think that way? Becides,emergency exits/slides are more expensive than plugs and they pass those savings onto you!
I'm sure these were negotiated laws beween the makers and lawmakers. Safety mechanisms should not be deemed N/A based on the number of passengers, or if the customer bought the "wiz-bang" model vs the base model. That's like saying airbags arn't included because you didn't get the leather seat option, or because you have a 2dr and not a 4dr.
How much is human life worth?
And tested by the airframe manufacturer to comply with the maximum evacuation requirement.More exits do not mean it is easier for you to get off the plane...have you considered that more exits = more people to evacuate through them? It has already been stated that number of emergency exits and flight attendants are based upon regulatory compliance for number of passengers.
A representative cross-section of the general population is used for certification testing.I'm taking about the old lady in front/back of you... Do you help her or not? Jesus...