CKN, I agree. I don't like the looks either.
I'd buy one for every day of the week.It should read: WE crease and bend metal this way because we can......................that's enough to make someone actually want to buy an SUV.
It is not only Sienna. My in-laws have 2011 Pilot. Same POS, different package.Our friends bought their sienna in 2015 around the same time we bought our odyssey.
I lost count of how many times it has been in the shop for failed components, leaks, etc. Framkly I was incredibly surprised. It took a decade and nearly 200k miles for anything on our Previa to fail (radiator). Our odyssey could have faster responding infotainment, but the only dealer trip it has had was due to stripped crossbar bolts on the roof rack. Hardly a real issue.
Hope the sienna proves to be more reliable than I understand it to be.
It is not only Sienna. My in-laws have 2011 Pilot. Same POS, different package.
Actually here I prefer Toyota over Honda.
Available AWD, available manual shifting (using for engine brake going downhill).
I drive on snow tires too, donut spare in the back. Planty space to fit donut tire.Meh. I’ve found very little use for AWD personally. Good snow tires? Sure
A questionable, unpopular (in terms of units sold) system that forces the customer into run flats? No thanks.
I think the hybrid AWD is a great idea though.
maybe it’s a lot more hilly by you, but I’d rather use brakes than force shifts on an expensive AT personally.
We had an 05 Sienna and after the 1st road trip with the kids the wife was more than pleased. Easily 23- 24 MPG @ 65-70 MPH with the A/C on.Looks nice and I wish I could talk the wife into one for a few years while the kids are little bit she likes (or has been marketed into liking) a full-size SUV. That fuel mileage seems great for the size and capacity. You can get a built in fridge and vacuum too, nice!
It's definitely hilly up in North Jersey, where AWD does come in handy.Meh. I’ve found very little use for AWD personally. Good snow tires? Sure
A questionable, unpopular (in terms of units sold) system that forces the customer into run flats? No thanks.
I think the hybrid AWD is a great idea though.
maybe it’s a lot more hilly by you, but I’d rather use brakes than force shifts on an expensive AT personally.
Meh.It's definitely hilly up in North Jersey, where AWD does come in handy.
We had an 05 Sienna and after the 1st road trip with the kids the wife was more than pleased. Easily 23- 24 MPG @ 65-70 MPH with the A/C on.
Sliding doors make loading and getting the kids situated a snap, and almost all the cargo room you need. Now we have a Highlander and need a cargo rack with a 20 cubic foot, watertight bag for the beach trips.
Unless you get a Suburban, you won't replicate the cargo room while hauling passengers.
The 2010+ Sienna also had footrests for the 2nd row captains chairs. My buddy rode in those seats when his wife drove.
Nope, cannot match Sienna, Odyssey etc.We had an 05 Sienna and after the 1st road trip with the kids the wife was more than pleased. Easily 23- 24 MPG @ 65-70 MPH with the A/C on.
Sliding doors make loading and getting the kids situated a snap, and almost all the cargo room you need. Now we have a Highlander and need a cargo rack with a 20 cubic foot, watertight bag for the beach trips.
Unless you get a Suburban, you won't replicate the cargo room while hauling passengers.
The 2010+ Sienna also had footrests for the 2nd row captains chairs. My buddy rode in those seats when his wife drove.
Towing? yes. Space, minivan still better.A Yukon XL, same as Suburban is what we actually have. She likes riding up a bit higher and we do tow a 6,000 pound travel trailer at times which would not work with the Sienna or any other minivan.
The new one has CVT? Oh HELL NO!CVT....meh
it’s physics that is why FWD can’t climb long steep hills, even with winter tiresMeh.
You learn to manage it and appreciate physics.
We’re not talking some random hilly backroad in upstate NY or something.
Its not exactly CVT but a hybrid i wanna say ECT transmission. Feels similar but different than a CVT. My zonks are engine noise under load and the styling is a bit not good compared to Pacifica and Carnival. Its like they are competing with Honda for ugliest lines on a van award. The sienna is not bad, just the Carnival and the Pacifica are a little better.
Sarajevo neighborhoods from Ottoman period are built on 14-16% grade if not more in some instances. People climb with FWD all the time, snow tires mandatory in the country. Absolute champion in climbing? Golf II diesel.it’s physics that is why FWD can’t climb long steep hills, even with winter tires
Rte 206 near I-80 going through Flanders, you always see people struggle to climb that hill when it snows.
rte 515 in Vernon township has a giant ill that people struggle to climb up and down when it snows, especially when they travel home from Mountain Creek
then there is rte 23 climbing that road going to High Point that causes problems
The Pacifica and the new Voyager use the 9 speed on non-hybrid models. The Grand Caravan still uses the 62TE.The Pacifica AWD hybrid is also a CVT which is too bad. I think the FWD still uses the 62TE 6 speed auto.