2018 Transit transmission replacement costs
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Okay how about think about this..are we talking about percentage that have failed at the extremely low mileage that most are still at now? Or percentage of all of them that would fail if they were able to be driven 200k miles? 100k miles? The way you're asking this question makes me think you haven't thought it through.
I know many will get written off or scrapped for other mechanical failures but if that factor was taken out and we said we wanted them to last 200k, the failure rate would probably be over 50%.
And sorry I know it's your job to call ******** on everyone on the internet that doesn't share your unique perspective (or maybe you're employed by ford to defend these transmissions? But my friend is one of my closest friends who I met years ago when we worked at a Ford dealership...we both have lots of contacts in the auto industry. Said transmission guy I have not met but I know for a fact that it's a true story and I don't give a rats rear what you think about that. Lol.
Another guy both of us know was the trans tech when I worked there and he retired when the 10 speeds started failing regularly and Ford was being difficult with warranty dealings.
I don't know.But if it's your truck to the tune of $7,500-well before 100,000 miles-it's one too much....Unless you lived with one-which you apparently haven't -it's a moot point. There are no excuses-it's a poor piece of engineering on Ford's part. I not going to debate with you further-since I have owned one-and now own a Silverado. I know the difference.
I'm out.
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Since you asked for a defining point, let's say 125K miles. What percentage of the 10R80 Ford transmissions do you think fail before that point? Although I can appreciate that you think 50% would fail before 200k miles. How many flush/fill cycles do you think they should have had by 200K miles, given your 50% failure rate prediction? Just curious.
As far as your second paragraph....I'm sorry you got so triggered. Deep breathing, okay? (although I do have to say it made my day to read your comment that you think I might be here as an 'employee of Ford to defend these transmissions'). I assure you Ford couldn't care less about the BITOG forum, but that is an interesting assessment.
For the record, I do think Ford has some issues with this transmission. I hear a lot of people complaining about the clunkiness of them. I also know (and have driven) ones that are perfectly smooth. I do think there is a failure rate on them, and I think that failure rate is small (I know the top Ford technician at a local dealership who has no reason to lie about it in my private conversations with him since we've been friends since kindergarten)
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I couldn't even begin to guess how many are getting proper maintenance but I'm sure it's not many... however with many of them fail before 80k miles it may not be as significant a factor as you think.
Also how many of the ones that don't fail (whatever percentage that may be) do you think just go to the grocery store and daycare etc...instead of actual truck work? I bet mustang transmissions have lower failure rates just because of the weight difference.
I know you don't work for ford, I was just trying to give you a bit of your own medicine.
Well, if your attempt was to 'give me a bit of my own medicine' then you definitely fell short of that mark as I wasn't giving out any medicine. I can ask what people think the failure rates are....even if for some strange reason that gets you triggered.
But I hear ya.....'you can't even begin to guess' as far as the percentage. It is hard to tell from the words you typed above, but you seem to be saying that 'many of them fail before 80k miles'.
Okay, what percentage do you think fail before 80k miles?
Last year I test drove a brand new Explorer with that 10-speed and the 2.3 EB. I didn't like it at all. If I drove it relatively aggressively it felt OK but then the fuel economy tanked because it was turbo. Around town, driving normally, trying to get good fuel economy, it had no idea what to do and drove me nuts. At that time I was driving a 2010 Escape with the 6F35 that many people say shifts inconsistently. I was so glad to be back in that after the test drive haha.
I do understand that it's a smart transmission with adaptive learning but I know how a Ford transmission that's in default strategy behaves because at one point my 6F35 in the Escape was being weird so I changed the fluid and used Forscan to reset it and took it for a drive and it was still better in the first few miles than that Explorer was. If you can't make it good enough for a customer to test drive a new vehicle what have you really done?
I like Ford, I do. I have owned many. But based on that experience I am not surprised these units are dying early. Some shifts are too soft, some shifts were too harsh... probably not good for the transmission.
I do understand that it's a smart transmission with adaptive learning but I know how a Ford transmission that's in default strategy behaves because at one point my 6F35 in the Escape was being weird so I changed the fluid and used Forscan to reset it and took it for a drive and it was still better in the first few miles than that Explorer was. If you can't make it good enough for a customer to test drive a new vehicle what have you really done?
I like Ford, I do. I have owned many. But based on that experience I am not surprised these units are dying early. Some shifts are too soft, some shifts were too harsh... probably not good for the transmission.
As I mentioned - I got rid of my 2020 F150 because of the transmission. After I traded mine in ( at the Chevrolet Dealership) there were three more low miles F150 that were traded in as well. All local trades according to Carfax. I know there are numerous reasons why some trade in- but you can't help but to speculate as to why.....
A little cheaper than we pay for the Dodge Promasters in our fleet. They are just under $8k and last way less than 100k miles. I feel bad for anyone who buys one.
dang, 195 bucks an hour for shop labor rate
I think here in the SF Bay Area it’s actually higher than that. For a dealer $195 sounds cheap!
I have to agree. Most of the other major problems they can have aren't likely to happen until much higher miles. And at this point most high mileage examples are just a lot of highway driving.
Ford dealer here is $250.00
No. These things are done with little to no margin or even at a loss sometimes to get additional business and keep customers coming back.
No.They have a "special" it's about a $100.00 to $125.00 for an oil change/tire rotation. The hourly shop rate is $250.00-maybe I wasn't clear. I assume the oil is the MotorCraft syn blend.
I'm am getting old. I'm 67- conversely- I'm done crawling underneath vehicles and removing skid plates and what not to change the oil. So it costs what it costs.
