I'll start with this - I almost bought one of these instead of the Focus a few years ago - you can pick them up used on Craigslist for $3k -$5k depending on condition. I've also been considering one for a winter rat because they're so cheap.
I now know why!
This is THE most buzzy 4 cyl I've ever had. Anything above 3000RPM (which is required), the entire car rattles. Dash, door panels.
Also, completely gutless! I've never really said that about another car as I drive slower than your grandmother on her way to church. Almost got rear ended on the highway getting up to speed. Apparently this engine only makes power at 5500 ... and has a 6000RPM readline!
The transmission in this is the ultimate slushbox. If I hadn't known better, I would have thought the transmission was bad! Acellerating hard it almost feels like a CVT; you can feel a slight bump as it shifts and RPMs drop maybe 250.
Programming on the transmission is also horrible. Trying to pass a truck going 60, I gave it some gas to get up to 65 (speed limit). I pushed the pedal some ... nothing. Pushed it a bit more ... the engine made a some nose ... pushed it a bit more, it unlocked the torque converter and the engine shot to 4000RPM ... but didn't go any faster.
Then, out of nowhere, it kicked down a gear or two, bounced off the revlimiter and slowly started moving faster. I swear it chirped the tires, because as soon as I let up about 1mm on the gas pedal, it super harshly shifted to OD and locked the torque coverter and sturggled to maintain 65.
The driving dynamics of this car are absurd! I thought I was going to roll it going 35 around a corner on an entrance ramp with a posted speed of 45! It also gets blown around in the wind like no other. When a truck would pass us, I would get white knuckles from trying to wrestle with the thing to keep it on the road!
Now the interior, I actually liked! It was plain, simple and to the point! No power locks, no power windows ... nothing to go wrong. Simple, NOT INTEGRATED radio, manual HVAC controls - not even vacuum actuated! They were mechanical! The blower motor did whistle a bit.
Also!!! Don't hit the hold button. This apparently cuases the car to want to start out in OD ... An anemic car to begin with can't even begin to operate when it's in OD trying to take off from a stoplight.
All in all, I still wouldn't mind one for a winter beater. I think $3000 or $4000 for one with a 5 speed wouldn't be a bad deal and it would keep the Jeep and Focus from rusting out.
How are these things for reliability? The transmission really has to kick down a lot to keep up with traffic ... are the transmissions in these things reliable?
I understand it has an Aisin transmission - which are generally good.
I now know why!
This is THE most buzzy 4 cyl I've ever had. Anything above 3000RPM (which is required), the entire car rattles. Dash, door panels.
Also, completely gutless! I've never really said that about another car as I drive slower than your grandmother on her way to church. Almost got rear ended on the highway getting up to speed. Apparently this engine only makes power at 5500 ... and has a 6000RPM readline!
The transmission in this is the ultimate slushbox. If I hadn't known better, I would have thought the transmission was bad! Acellerating hard it almost feels like a CVT; you can feel a slight bump as it shifts and RPMs drop maybe 250.
Programming on the transmission is also horrible. Trying to pass a truck going 60, I gave it some gas to get up to 65 (speed limit). I pushed the pedal some ... nothing. Pushed it a bit more ... the engine made a some nose ... pushed it a bit more, it unlocked the torque converter and the engine shot to 4000RPM ... but didn't go any faster.
Then, out of nowhere, it kicked down a gear or two, bounced off the revlimiter and slowly started moving faster. I swear it chirped the tires, because as soon as I let up about 1mm on the gas pedal, it super harshly shifted to OD and locked the torque coverter and sturggled to maintain 65.
The driving dynamics of this car are absurd! I thought I was going to roll it going 35 around a corner on an entrance ramp with a posted speed of 45! It also gets blown around in the wind like no other. When a truck would pass us, I would get white knuckles from trying to wrestle with the thing to keep it on the road!
Now the interior, I actually liked! It was plain, simple and to the point! No power locks, no power windows ... nothing to go wrong. Simple, NOT INTEGRATED radio, manual HVAC controls - not even vacuum actuated! They were mechanical! The blower motor did whistle a bit.
Also!!! Don't hit the hold button. This apparently cuases the car to want to start out in OD ... An anemic car to begin with can't even begin to operate when it's in OD trying to take off from a stoplight.
All in all, I still wouldn't mind one for a winter beater. I think $3000 or $4000 for one with a 5 speed wouldn't be a bad deal and it would keep the Jeep and Focus from rusting out.
How are these things for reliability? The transmission really has to kick down a lot to keep up with traffic ... are the transmissions in these things reliable?
I understand it has an Aisin transmission - which are generally good.
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