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#1141026 - 04/30/08 09:01 PM Re: Which is the best High Mileage Oil? [Re: ericthepig]
Audi Junkie Offline


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I like Castrol GTX HM but would use MaxLife.
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#1141040 - 04/30/08 09:13 PM Re: Which is the best High Mileage Oil? [Re: Audi Junkie]
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Registered: 09/23/06
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Loc: Bad Axe, MI
Mobil 1 HM 10w30 has my vote,check there site out nice spec's and
VOA's look great too..
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#1141176 - 05/01/08 01:46 AM Re: Which is the best High Mileage Oil? [Re: daman]
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Registered: 02/19/08
Posts: 35
Loc: Vancouver, Canada
whats the difference between mobil 1 hm and mobil clean hm?
ones synthetic ones not ?
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#1141184 - 05/01/08 02:09 AM Re: Which is the best High Mileage Oil? [Re: 02zx9r]
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yes....Mobil 1 HM is full Synthetic.
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#1141238 - 05/01/08 06:54 AM Re: Which is the best High Mileage Oil? [Re: ZZman]
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Best high mileage oil is synthetic. Only Valvoline and Mobil make synthetic high mileage oils (that I am aware of). But many of the other high mileage oils are very good too. Don't get them for high mileage, get them because they are more robust.
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#1141347 - 05/01/08 09:30 AM Re: Which is the best High Mileage Oil? [Re: TallPaul]
daman Offline


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 Originally Posted By: TallPaul
Don't get them for high mileage, get them because they are more robust.

yup x2...
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#1141368 - 05/01/08 09:53 AM Re: Which is the best High Mileage Oil? [Re: TallPaul]
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Registered: 01/17/08
Posts: 626
Loc: Missouri
 Originally Posted By: TallPaul
Best high mileage oil is synthetic. Only Valvoline and Mobil make synthetic high mileage oils (that I am aware of). But many of the other high mileage oils are very good too. Don't get them for high mileage, get them because they are more robust.


But if you are getting them because they are more robust and not because they are high mileage, you may as well just get a good oil like Pennzoil conventional.

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#1141422 - 05/01/08 10:55 AM Re: Which is the best High Mileage Oil? [Re: strombony]
TallPaul Offline


Registered: 10/22/03
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 Originally Posted By: strombony
 Originally Posted By: TallPaul
Best high mileage oil is synthetic. Only Valvoline and Mobil make synthetic high mileage oils (that I am aware of). But many of the other high mileage oils are very good too. Don't get them for high mileage, get them because they are more robust.


But if you are getting them because they are more robust and not because they are high mileage, you may as well just get a good oil like Pennzoil conventional.
I am assuming in all cases that the high mileage is an improved version of the company's conventional. May not always be true. And of course, am not worried about paying a premium for the HM oil.

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#1141439 - 05/01/08 11:20 AM Re: Which is the best High Mileage Oil? [Re: TallPaul]
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Registered: 12/16/06
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Loc: Baltimore, Maryland
is MaxLife semi-syn an improved version of Durablend?
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#1141463 - 05/01/08 11:44 AM Re: Which is the best High Mileage Oil? [Re: TallPaul]
strombony Offline


Registered: 01/17/08
Posts: 626
Loc: Missouri
 Originally Posted By: TallPaul
 Originally Posted By: strombony
 Originally Posted By: TallPaul
Best high mileage oil is synthetic. Only Valvoline and Mobil make synthetic high mileage oils (that I am aware of). But many of the other high mileage oils are very good too. Don't get them for high mileage, get them because they are more robust.


But if you are getting them because they are more robust and not because they are high mileage, you may as well just get a good oil like Pennzoil conventional.
I am assuming in all cases that the high mileage is an improved version of the company's conventional. May not always be true. And of course, am not worried about paying a premium for the HM oil.


Let us leave price out of this. Look..YB Pennzoil and Maxlife both claim to do the same thing...accept for the seal conditioners. Someone told me that as of 20 years ago, gaskets have been improved and many do not have leaking issues, especiall the newer vehicles. I think that Pennzoil has a better product and I would be willing to bet that their HM is equal to or greater than Maxlife in quality...they just don't advertise it...

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#1141556 - 05/01/08 01:15 PM Re: Which is the best High Mileage Oil? [Re: strombony]
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Registered: 03/04/07
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Loc: Navasota, TX
 Originally Posted By: strombony

I think that Pennzoil has a better product and I would be willing to bet that their HM is equal to or greater than Maxlife in quality...they just don't advertise it...


I had a 95 Monte Carlo that did quite well on Pennzoil High Mileage. I wondered why it only gets an occasional mention here.
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#1141602 - 05/01/08 02:16 PM Re: Which is the best High Mileage Oil? [Re: strombony]
TallPaul Offline


Registered: 10/22/03
Posts: 12915
Loc: By Detroit
 Originally Posted By: Spartuss
is MaxLife semi-syn an improved version of Durablend?
My understanding is that SL Maxlife was an improved version of Valvoline All Climate. Not sure it still holds under SM. Given Maxlife is a blend, though, it would be an alternative to Durablend, I guess.

 Originally Posted By: strombony
Let us leave price out of this. Look..YB Pennzoil and Maxlife both claim to do the same thing...accept for the seal conditioners. Someone told me that as of 20 years ago, gaskets have been improved and many do not have leaking issues, especiall the newer vehicles. I think that Pennzoil has a better product and I would be willing to bet that their HM is equal to or greater than Maxlife in quality...they just don't advertise it...
Well I have a '95 F150 that has a main seal seep. I haven't consistently used Maxlife in it. In fact, I now have a load of Durablend in it. I would not doubt that the Pennzoil HM is good stuff and I could not tell you which is better. Based on viscosity, zddp, etc, I might prefer one over the other, but the bottom line for me is that I am going to use Valvoline (am a Valvoline freak) unless I find a very compelling reason to do otherwise. I was once compelled to buy a case of Citgo HM when it was clearanced at Meijer for 80 cents a quart and had about 1200 ppm zinc a few years ago.

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#1141622 - 05/01/08 02:39 PM Re: Which is the best High Mileage Oil? [Re: strombony]
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Registered: 03/24/08
Posts: 929
Loc: Houston, TX
 Originally Posted By: strombony
 Originally Posted By: TallPaul
 Originally Posted By: strombony
 Originally Posted By: TallPaul
Best high mileage oil is synthetic. Only Valvoline and Mobil make synthetic high mileage oils (that I am aware of). But many of the other high mileage oils are very good too. Don't get them for high mileage, get them because they are more robust.


But if you are getting them because they are more robust and not because they are high mileage, you may as well just get a good oil like Pennzoil conventional.
I am assuming in all cases that the high mileage is an improved version of the company's conventional. May not always be true. And of course, am not worried about paying a premium for the HM oil.


Let us leave price out of this. Look..YB Pennzoil and Maxlife both claim to do the same thing...accept for the seal conditioners. Someone told me that as of 20 years ago, gaskets have been improved and many do not have leaking issues, especiall the newer vehicles. I think that Pennzoil has a better product and I would be willing to bet that their HM is equal to or greater than Maxlife in quality...they just don't advertise it...

the YB Pennzoil does get review here, but what I don't understand is why don't people purchase the MC 5000? I know that Pennzoil dino is a group II+ oil and I also read here awhile back that the MC 5000 5w-30 is group II+ also! MC 5000 cost $8.97 5qt and YB Pennzoil dino cost $10.97 5qt. If both are group II+ oil, it seems like it only makes sense to purchase the cheaper of the two. If someone can explain this to me then I would greatly appreicate it. BTW, I currently us MC 5000 5w-30 and my motor has 176k on it. I think it's a steal for the price. I want to try the Valvoline ML next but I think I'll stick with the MC 5000.
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#1141629 - 05/01/08 02:45 PM Re: Which is the best High Mileage Oil? [Re: NightRiderQ45]
strombony Offline


Registered: 01/17/08
Posts: 626
Loc: Missouri
I like MC5000 as well, and I would also like any sort of confirmatin as to whether or not it is a Grp II+. Anyone know?

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#1141651 - 05/01/08 03:25 PM Re: Which is the best High Mileage Oil? [Re: strombony]
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Registered: 03/24/08
Posts: 929
Loc: Houston, TX
 Originally Posted By: strombony
I like MC5000 as well, and I would also like any sort of confirmatin as to whether or not it is a Grp II+. Anyone know?

I read that someone posted that it was group II+...well atleast the 5w-30. Heck I don't know if YB pennzoil is group II+. I'm quite sure it is, but I myself haven't seen it.
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