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#718658 - 04/14/06 05:29 AM Re: FAQ - GC ( German Castrol )
outrun Offline


Registered: 11/26/02
Posts: 1714
Loc: Texas & BWI Area
Mobil1 and other Castrol Syntecs are not true synthetics.

That either baseless or negligent slander against ExxonMobil.

Mobil 1 SS has a PAO carrier oil. Domestic Castrol Sham-Tecs do not.

Are you an independent poster or employed by another party?

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#718659 - 04/14/06 05:48 AM Re: FAQ - GC ( German Castrol )
FD777 Offline


Registered: 01/04/06
Posts: 223
Loc: Sunnyvale, CA
outrun,

quote:
The Mobil1 info is a huge error on my part. I heard Mobil1 switching to Group III after they lost a lawsuit to Castrol.
I should never trust word of mouth info...

I'm an independent poster. As I stated above, it was an unintentional mistake.
Yes, I was negligent; I didn't do my research.

I have used Mobil1 in the past and pending my UOA results, I may continue to use it. I just put GC in my car, 4/8/06. If the results are worse, I will switch back to Mobil1. Simple as that.
So far, the GC is superb with my friend's Supra. (No pun intended.)
As for my car, WRX, GC seems marginally better.

I haven't updated the FAQ because I can't edit my posts. I'll change this ASAP (whenever I get moderator support) [Smile]

[ April 14, 2006, 09:02 PM: Message edited by: FD777 ]

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#718660 - 04/14/06 06:43 AM Re: FAQ - GC ( German Castrol )
pscholte Offline


Registered: 07/02/03
Posts: 5180
Loc: Der Schwarzwaldwesten
Please trust me or if not me, Die kleinen Burschen: M0501 IS the last of the Green batches.

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#718661 - 04/15/06 10:56 AM Re: FAQ - GC ( German Castrol )
FD777 Offline


Registered: 01/04/06
Posts: 223
Loc: Sunnyvale, CA
I'm having some technical difficulties with updating the FAQ. Everything should be fixed in a few days.

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#718662 - 04/16/06 11:21 PM Re: FAQ - GC ( German Castrol )
glxpassat Offline


Registered: 02/08/04
Posts: 1056
Loc: Huntsville, AL
quote:
Originally posted by FD777:

- Why do people hunt for Green GC so frivolously?
I don't know. There's something novel about losing gas/time/money/relationships for the Green.

Because the aroma is so devine! I also prefer the fruity flavor... [stretch]

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#718663 - 04/20/06 06:01 AM Re: FAQ - GC ( German Castrol )
pscholte Offline


Registered: 07/02/03
Posts: 5180
Loc: Der Schwarzwaldwesten
Hunting Das Grün, frivolous? Never!!

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#718664 - 06/03/06 03:16 AM Re: FAQ - GC ( German Castrol )
Crashbox Offline


Registered: 06/10/05
Posts: 1337
Loc: Lynden, Washington
Hmmm... this GC FAQ thing actually may have inspired me to check my stash of about 22 quarts today. Looks like mine are all gold GC except perhaps for three or four bottles that begin with M0226xxxxx (and in very dark ink)... makes me wonder if these are the elusive green GC stuff...???

I do like the FAQ's for the GC, it's one of those "Why didn't I think of that?" handy-dandy items.

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#718665 - 06/05/06 06:18 AM Re: FAQ - GC ( German Castrol )
FD777 Offline


Registered: 01/04/06
Posts: 223
Loc: Sunnyvale, CA
Crashbox, your M0226xxxx dark ink might be the U.S. stuff.

I need to update the FAQ, but here are the basics:

There is some U.S. made Castrol Syntec 0w-30 that come in GC look-a-like bottles. The main differences I've noticed are:

1. Doesn't say made in Germany on the back.
2. Has the API Starburst logo on the front.
3. Has dark ink date code instead of white ink.

(1) will be the easiest way to determine if it's Green GC.

I just read about this recently. And I saw a bottle myself yesterday!

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#718666 - 06/05/06 08:58 AM Re: FAQ - GC ( German Castrol )
Crashbox Offline


Registered: 06/10/05
Posts: 1337
Loc: Lynden, Washington
Yessir, it is in fact Castrol that says "Made in U.S.A. from domestic and imported components".

RATS!

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#718667 - 06/17/06 01:36 AM Re: FAQ - GC ( German Castrol )
tdi jerry Offline


Registered: 05/06/04
Posts: 105
Loc: GREENVILLE NC
yes mobil 1 is still 100 % synthetic pao except for just a very little amount that the add pack is suppened in. if you go to gas boy web site and click on nc then pitt co and then greenville nc and then fuel ecomany & then synthetic oil their is a thread that some guy is claming the mobil 1 is not 100 % pao.we have been going around a few day's now and he is pushing synlube but i never heard of it before him talking about it but i will stick with mobil 1 it has done a great job for me the last twenty year's. help me out with this guy. [Frown]

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#718668 - 06/17/06 09:45 AM Re: FAQ - GC ( German Castrol )
tdi jerry Offline


Registered: 05/06/04
Posts: 105
Loc: GREENVILLE NC
quote:
Originally posted by tdi jerry:
yes mobil 1 is still 100 % synthetic pao except for just a very little amount that the add pack is suppened in. if you go to gas boy web site and click on nc then pitt co and then greenville nc and then fuel ecomany & then synthetic oil their is a thread that some guy is claming the mobil 1 is not 100 % pao.we have been going around a few day's now and he is pushing synlube but i never heard of it before him talking about it but i will stick with mobil 1 it has done a great job for me the last twenty year's. help me out with this guy. [Frown]

it should say gasbuddy not gasboy sorry [Embarrassed]

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#718669 - 06/17/06 10:33 AM Re: FAQ - GC ( German Castrol )
99 GASE2 Offline


Registered: 07/14/04
Posts: 108
Loc: Toronto, ON, Canada
http://www.torontogasprices.com/Forum_MSG.aspx?master=1&category=1054&topic=180462&page_no=1

Yup, Houckster is a asshat.

Tried discussing it with him last year.

But he won't listen.

Him & his SynLube & CM Oil Filter with no UOAs.

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#718670 - 06/17/06 06:43 PM Re: FAQ - GC ( German Castrol )
tdi jerry Offline


Registered: 05/06/04
Posts: 105
Loc: GREENVILLE NC
ya his life time oil.i tryed to tell him that if he didn't use a oil that meet's oem spec he can kiss his warranty good by.he has a closed mind and want listen to any thing any one has to say.

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#718671 - 06/17/06 08:01 PM Re: FAQ - GC ( German Castrol )
ekpolk Offline
The Regenerator


Registered: 04/05/04
Posts: 8881
Loc: Pensacola FL
Jerry:

I'm no Synlube fan, but respectfully, your statement about the wty is not correct. All US new car wtys are governed by the federal Moss-Magnuson Warranty Act (MMWA). Under the MMWA, a mfr has the burden of proving that something you (or a 3rd party) did was the cause of a claimed failure, instead of a problem with the car. Whole wyts can't be voided, or claims denied as a "penalty" for not using the spec-ed oil. If an owner uses Synlube and has an engine failure, the mfr would have prove that the Synlube caused the problem. Even if they were able to meet their burden (which would probably require engineering testimony), the wty would still be in full force for the rest of its term as to other problems.

Example: you use 80 wt oil and it causes your engine to blow up. You take the car in for the blown up engine and a door handle that has simply fallen off, not because of any abuse. The maker easily proves that you caused the engine failure, and will win on that claim, but they still have to fix the door, as your wty is still in full force, despite your trashing the engine.

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#718672 - 06/24/06 06:30 AM Re: FAQ - GC ( German Castrol )
GoHack Offline


Registered: 08/24/03
Posts: 71
Loc: WA
I just bought some GC and they are now being marked on the bottles as "European Formular".
Oh, it still says Made in Germany.

[ June 24, 2006, 09:58 PM: Message edited by: GoHack ]

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