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#3441700 - 07/31/14 01:03 PM Euro Pennzoil Platinum w/ PurePlus - 0W-40, 5W-30
vinu_neuro Offline


Registered: 05/09/05
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Loc: Chicago / IN
Pennzoil has new Euro oils listed under Pennzoil Platinum. Anyone know anything about these? 0W-40, 5W-30 and 5W-40.

http://www.pennzoil.com/motor-oil/pennzoil-platinum-full-synthetic-motor-oil/
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#3441739 - 07/31/14 01:43 PM Re: Euro Pennzoil Platinum w/ PurePlus - 0W-40, 5W-30 [Re: vinu_neuro]
threeputtpar Offline


Registered: 08/04/11
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I think all we know about them at this point is that their availability is zilch. Nowhere to be found.

I don't think I've even seen a PDS for them yet.
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#3441767 - 07/31/14 02:08 PM Re: Euro Pennzoil Platinum w/ PurePlus - 0W-40, 5W-30 [Re: vinu_neuro]
Quattro Pete Offline


Registered: 10/30/02
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Yup. They've been listed there for quite a few months now, ever since PurePlus was introduced. No word on when if ever they'll appear in the wild.
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#3441883 - 07/31/14 03:44 PM Re: Euro Pennzoil Platinum w/ PurePlus - 0W-40, 5W-30 [Re: vinu_neuro]
ElastoHydro Offline


Registered: 06/30/14
Posts: 218
Loc: Florida
They are the ones that are going to be available at BMW dealerships to replace the Castrol they currently sell there.

The Pennz Euro 0w-40 probably isn't any better/worse than M1 0w-40 you can get in Walmart for cheap.

Also, I find it strange Pennz 0w-40 isn't listing LL-01 yet.

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#3442003 - 07/31/14 05:09 PM Re: Euro Pennzoil Platinum w/ PurePlus - 0W-40, 5W-30 [Re: ElastoHydro]
Quattro Pete Offline


Registered: 10/30/02
Posts: 28262
Loc: Great Lakes
Originally Posted By: ElastoHydro
Also, I find it strange Pennz 0w-40 isn't listing LL-01 yet.

Pennzoil 0w-40 is a Chrysler SRT crowd oil. Its NOACK is so high, it can't meet some of the more stringent Euro specs such as MB 229.5, for example.
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#3442076 - 07/31/14 06:20 PM Re: Euro Pennzoil Platinum w/ PurePlus - 0W-40, 5W-30 [Re: Quattro Pete]
ElastoHydro Offline


Registered: 06/30/14
Posts: 218
Loc: Florida
Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Originally Posted By: ElastoHydro
Also, I find it strange Pennz 0w-40 isn't listing LL-01 yet.

Pennzoil 0w-40 is a Chrysler SRT crowd oil. Its NOACK is so high, it can't meet some of the more stringent Euro specs such as MB 229.5, for example.


No, that SRT 0w-40 is a slightly different (labelled anyway) product. Here is the set of Pennzoil Euro oils I see on the website, and note no LL-01 for the 0w-40:

Pennzoil Platinum® Euro
Full Synthetic Motor Oil with PurePlus™ Technology

Euro 0W-40
Fiat 9.55535.Z2
Mercedes-Benz 229.3, 229.5 and 226.5
Porsche A40
VW 502 00 and 505 00
Renault RN0700 and RN0710

Euro 5W-30
BMW LL-01
Fiat 9.55535.Z2
Mercedes-Benz 229.3, 229.5 and 226.5
Porsche A40
VW 502 00 and 505 00
Renault RN0700 and RN0710

Euro 5W-40
BMW LL-01
Chrysler MS 10725, 10850 and 12991
Ferrari
Maserati
Fiat 9.55535.Z2
Mercedes-Benz 229.3, 229.5 and 226.5
Porsche A40
VW 502 00 and 505 00
Renault RN0700 and RN0710

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#3442106 - 07/31/14 06:52 PM Re: Euro Pennzoil Platinum w/ PurePlus - 0W-40, 5W-30 [Re: ElastoHydro]
Quattro Pete Offline


Registered: 10/30/02
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Originally Posted By: ElastoHydro
Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Originally Posted By: ElastoHydro
Also, I find it strange Pennz 0w-40 isn't listing LL-01 yet.

Pennzoil 0w-40 is a Chrysler SRT crowd oil. Its NOACK is so high, it can't meet some of the more stringent Euro specs such as MB 229.5, for example.


No, that SRT 0w-40 is a slightly different (labelled anyway) product. Here is the set of Pennzoil Euro oils I see on the website,

Oh, ok. You didn't say Euro in the sentence I quoted, so i thought you switched to talking about the non-Euro stuff. smile
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#3442460 - 08/01/14 03:58 AM Re: Euro Pennzoil Platinum w/ PurePlus - 0W-40, 5W-30 [Re: vinu_neuro]
riggaz Offline


Registered: 01/26/10
Posts: 442
Loc: England
Originally Posted By: vinu_neuro
Pennzoil has new Euro oils listed under Pennzoil Platinum. Anyone know anything about these? 0W-40, 5W-30 and 5W-40.

http://www.pennzoil.com/motor-oil/pennzoil-platinum-full-synthetic-motor-oil/


Essentially they are a rebrand of the Shell Helix Ultra oils available over here

pureplus is their new GTL base oil

http://www.shell.co.uk/gbr/products-serv...x-pureplus.html



Edited by riggaz (08/01/14 04:01 AM)

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#3442730 - 08/01/14 11:15 AM Re: Euro Pennzoil Platinum w/ PurePlus - 0W-40, 5W-30 [Re: ElastoHydro]
threeputtpar Offline


Registered: 08/04/11
Posts: 1823
Loc: Appleton, WI
Originally Posted By: ElastoHydro
Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Originally Posted By: ElastoHydro
Also, I find it strange Pennz 0w-40 isn't listing LL-01 yet.

Pennzoil 0w-40 is a Chrysler SRT crowd oil. Its NOACK is so high, it can't meet some of the more stringent Euro specs such as MB 229.5, for example.


No, that SRT 0w-40 is a slightly different (labelled anyway) product. Here is the set of Pennzoil Euro oils I see on the website, and note no LL-01 for the 0w-40:

Pennzoil Platinum® Euro
Full Synthetic Motor Oil with PurePlus™ Technology

Euro 0W-40
Fiat 9.55535.Z2
Mercedes-Benz 229.3, 229.5 and 226.5
Porsche A40
VW 502 00 and 505 00
Renault RN0700 and RN0710

Euro 5W-30
BMW LL-01
Fiat 9.55535.Z2
Mercedes-Benz 229.3, 229.5 and 226.5
Porsche A40
VW 502 00 and 505 00
Renault RN0700 and RN0710

Euro 5W-40
BMW LL-01
Chrysler MS 10725, 10850 and 12991
Ferrari
Maserati
Fiat 9.55535.Z2
Mercedes-Benz 229.3, 229.5 and 226.5
Porsche A40
VW 502 00 and 505 00
Renault RN0700 and RN0710


None of those are showing BMW LL-04, MB 229.51, or VW 504.00 either. I would have thought that at least the 5W-30 would have had those approvals. Interesting.
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#3442746 - 08/01/14 11:27 AM Re: Euro Pennzoil Platinum w/ PurePlus - 0W-40, 5W-30 [Re: vinu_neuro]
Quattro Pete Offline


Registered: 10/30/02
Posts: 28262
Loc: Great Lakes
There are mistakes on that list. Possibly somebody just did a copy-paste by mistake. For example, there is no way the 5w-30 has Porsche A40 approval.
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#3442747 - 08/01/14 11:28 AM Re: Euro Pennzoil Platinum w/ PurePlus - 0W-40, 5W-30 [Re: threeputtpar]
Quattro Pete Offline


Registered: 10/30/02
Posts: 28262
Loc: Great Lakes
Originally Posted By: threeputtpar
None of those are showing BMW LL-04, MB 229.51, or VW 504.00 either.

The Euro L 5w-30 does:



BMW LL-04
Chrysler MS 11106
Mercedes-Benz 229.51
Porsche C30
VW 504 00/507 00


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#3442854 - 08/01/14 01:10 PM Re: Euro Pennzoil Platinum w/ PurePlus - 0W-40, 5W-30 [Re: vinu_neuro]
dparm Offline


Registered: 04/19/10
Posts: 12612
Loc: Chicago, IL
Platinum Euro L is "low SAPS". It's only available as 5w30 IIRC. You can get it on Amazon.
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#3445258 - 08/04/14 12:02 AM Re: Euro Pennzoil Platinum w/ PurePlus - 0W-40, 5W-30 [Re: riggaz]
Mathson Offline


Registered: 12/06/12
Posts: 67
Loc: North Europe
And PurePlus itself is a Shell's rebrand for Qatar GTL a.k.a QHVI. Comes in three different grades 3, 4 and 8. Available from a 3rd party supplier Vopak at Hamburg, Hong Kong and Houston.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=QHVI


Edited by Mathson (08/04/14 12:04 AM)

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#3445288 - 08/04/14 03:45 AM Re: Euro Pennzoil Platinum w/ PurePlus - 0W-40, 5W-30 [Re: Mathson]
riggaz Offline


Registered: 01/26/10
Posts: 442
Loc: England
Originally Posted By: Mathson
And PurePlus itself is a Shell's rebrand for Qatar GTL a.k.a QHVI. Comes in three different grades 3, 4 and 8. Available from a 3rd party supplier Vopak at Hamburg, Hong Kong and Houston.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=QHVI


Maybe you don't understand what rebrand is, technically a rebrand has to, at least, be a different word. Both Shell and Pennzoil call it PurePlus (notice it's still the same words) thus making it not a rebrand.

Shell make the GTL so again it cannot be a rebrand, it is just their marketing term for it.

What I was actually saying is the Pennzoil Euro oil is essentially rebranded Shell oil.

Also the Pearl GTL plant is a PSA between Shell and Qatar Petroleum, let me Wikipedia that for you


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pearl_GTL



Edited by riggaz (08/04/14 03:56 AM)

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#3445876 - 08/04/14 04:56 PM Re: Euro Pennzoil Platinum w/ PurePlus - 0W-40, 5W-30 [Re: riggaz]
Mathson Offline


Registered: 12/06/12
Posts: 67
Loc: North Europe
All I meant to say was GTL base oil that is produced at Pearl plant in Qatar is QHVI with all it's different grades. This is the name it's known for and distributed with to customers. For Shell's own marketing they have come up with a name PurePlus. Without going into semantics of 'rebranding', in my work place rebranding is something that is sold with two different names or brands. Don't know at which point QHVI transforms into PurePlus but at Vopak terminals it's still called QHVI.


Edited by Mathson (08/04/14 04:58 PM)

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