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#3422771 - 07/12/14 04:00 PM Re: Ecoboost or Not. [Re: tangojetta]
itguy08 Offline


Registered: 09/15/11
Posts: 1608
Loc: Central PA
Love both of mine.

One has been since new and 76k later nothing out of a knock sensor for the engine. Lots of power, decent fuel economy (for a 4500LB AWD sedan), and no oil consumption, turbo, or other issues with it. I fill it up with the cheapest swill I can find, change the oil at the dealer when the OLM either comes on or gets close. I did change the plugs at 75k and that's it.

The truck, got it with 43k in January, it now has 49k and no oil consumption or anything. But not really much other than that as far as history.

I fully expect at least 200k out of them both without major repairs.

I wouldn't worry - Ford has put out well over 600k of them since the middle of 2009 and failures are few and far between. I'm more worried about the 6F55 in the SHO than the Ecoboost. Although it too has given me no issues and I change the fluid every 30k.


Edited by itguy08 (07/12/14 04:02 PM)
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#3422778 - 07/12/14 04:13 PM Re: Ecoboost or Not. [Re: tangojetta]
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Registered: 01/04/08
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We are in the 21st century and it seems ridiculous that something like the ecoboost is out of the norm and we are still playing with naturally aspirated engines. Just about everything at this point should be turbo or supercharged. Naturally aspirated diesels in vehicles are so old school and not even offered in new stuff, just not sure why gasoline hasn't gone the same route. N/A engines should be confined to kit mods, restorations, and museums. Sure the cost would be more, but in mass production the costs drop dramatically compared to aftermarket.
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#3422792 - 07/12/14 04:30 PM Re: Ecoboost or Not. [Re: tangojetta]
Nick R Offline


Registered: 07/14/09
Posts: 10611
Loc: NEO
I would have no issues with an ecoboost vehicle. Some people are luddites and afraid of change. I'm not. We almost got a Ford f-150 ecoboost when I got my focus. We ended up with the traverse instead and have been very happy with it. But if you want an engine with lots of torque, and decent fuel economy, and a lot of go power, you can't really go wrong imo.
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#3423238 - 07/13/14 01:44 AM Re: Ecoboost or Not. [Re: tangojetta]
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This guy is trolling for some cash. Rubes believe anything.
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#3423255 - 07/13/14 05:03 AM Re: Ecoboost or Not. [Re: tangojetta]
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Loc: NY
I'm hearing mixed reviews about the EB engines. I'm still not ready to gamble with one, and I'm a big FMC fan. In another year or two I'd consider one. Fortunately for me, I want a new vehicle I don't need one.
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#3423447 - 07/13/14 11:50 AM Re: Ecoboost or Not. [Re: demarpaint]
SteveSRT8 Offline


Registered: 10/10/08
Posts: 15175
Loc: Sunny Florida
Originally Posted By: demarpaint
I'm hearing mixed reviews about the EB engines. I'm still not ready to gamble with one, and I'm a big FMC fan. In another year or two I'd consider one. Fortunately for me, I want a new vehicle I don't need one.


Major mfgrs have used us as the guinea pigs for a long time now, we always should thank the early adopters! But the EB is already pretty much proven viable, it just has some glitches under particular duty cycles. The failure rate on the V6 is quite low and it's only the 4 bangers that have had some issues, we all know about the old V6 intercooler woes, that's all over now.

It's always nice to let that new tech be thoroughly tested before spending your hard earned money...
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#3423595 - 07/13/14 03:36 PM Re: Ecoboost or Not. [Re: demarpaint]
itguy08 Offline


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Loc: Central PA
Originally Posted By: demarpaint
I'm hearing mixed reviews about the EB engines.


Just curious what? The 3.5 is solid with the exception it likes plugs every 40-50k or so. The F150 had intercooler issues but those are pretty much over now.

I know people complain about the fuel economy but that's about to be expected. Drive it hard and it's about the same as a 7.0 liter engine. Drive it sanely and you will get decent economy. I've seen 26 MPG in long highway with the SHO and with the F150 the average is about 17 (it has max tow, 4x4, and 3.73's). The SHO is fine by me and the F150 is about to be expected with the gearing it has.
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#3423890 - 07/13/14 09:13 PM Re: Ecoboost or Not. [Re: itguy08]
klt1986 Offline


Registered: 04/08/09
Posts: 88
Loc: Southern VA
Originally Posted By: itguy08
Originally Posted By: demarpaint
I'm hearing mixed reviews about the EB engines.


Just curious what? The 3.5 is solid with the exception it likes plugs every 40-50k or so. The F150 had intercooler issues but those are pretty much over now.

I know people complain about the fuel economy but that's about to be expected. Drive it hard and it's about the same as a 7.0 liter engine. Drive it sanely and you will get decent economy. I've seen 26 MPG in long highway with the SHO and with the F150 the average is about 17 (it has max tow, 4x4, and 3.73's). The SHO is fine by me and the F150 is about to be expected with the gearing it has.



Major oil consumption/smoking issues in the Interceptors here locally. Also transmission and rear end issues as well. One Interceptor was down for over 30 days awaiting a new rear end from Ford. There were not any parts available...whatever happened Ford wanted the rear end replaced as a unit.

I love the power the EB engine makes in these cars...the performance really is light years ahead of the Crown Vic PI's. However, long term durability under severe service may be an issue for this engine.



Edited by klt1986 (07/13/14 09:15 PM)

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#3424003 - 07/13/14 11:27 PM Re: Ecoboost or Not. [Re: klt1986]
ukmastermind Offline


Registered: 08/07/12
Posts: 104
Loc: Los Angeles, CA
I'm going to start collecting Walnut Shells just in case my buddies EB engine clogs up!
Walnut Shells and Dirty Intake Valves

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#3424062 - 07/14/14 05:05 AM Re: Ecoboost or Not. [Re: klt1986]
SteveSRT8 Offline


Registered: 10/10/08
Posts: 15175
Loc: Sunny Florida
Originally Posted By: klt1986
However, long term durability under severe service may be an issue for this engine.


I think that is precisely why Demarpaint and I agree that these get a little more R&D from those brave 'early adopters'!
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#3424074 - 07/14/14 05:57 AM Re: Ecoboost or Not. [Re: tangojetta]
demarpaint Offline


Registered: 07/03/05
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Loc: NY
Originally Posted By: itguy08
Originally Posted By: demarpaint
I'm hearing mixed reviews about the EB engines.


Just curious what?


Pretty much what was already mentioned in this thread.
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#3424119 - 07/14/14 07:23 AM Re: Ecoboost or Not. [Re: klt1986]
itguy08 Offline


Registered: 09/15/11
Posts: 1608
Loc: Central PA
Originally Posted By: klt1986

Major oil consumption/smoking issues in the Interceptors here locally. Also transmission and rear end issues as well. One Interceptor was down for over 30 days awaiting a new rear end from Ford. There were not any parts available...whatever happened Ford wanted the rear end replaced as a unit.

I love the power the EB engine makes in these cars...the performance really is light years ahead of the Crown Vic PI's. However, long term durability under severe service may be an issue for this engine.


Thanks.

There is a new TSB out and new parts for the smoking issue. And it goes all the way back to the 2010 EB in the cars so that may be something that was bad design.

I've heard that the rear in that platform (SHO/Flex/Explorer) is an integrated unit with the clutches and such built into the rear so that may be why it needs to be replaced as a unit rather than a rebuild. Either way I don't think I'd classify a rear end or even transmission a fault with the engine.

I would have hoped that with the Law Enforcement contracts, Ford would have done tons of testing on them but it seems like something slipped through the cracks. They better get it sorted or risk loosing LOTS of sales!
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#3424129 - 07/14/14 07:33 AM Re: Ecoboost or Not. [Re: ukmastermind]
badtlc Offline


Registered: 06/08/06
Posts: 3810
Loc: KC
Originally Posted By: ukmastermind
I'm going to start collecting Walnut Shells just in case my buddies EB engine clogs up!
Walnut Shells and Dirty Intake Valves


If your friend's EB clogs up then he isn't getting it hot enough every now and then:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFfRcwesqNg
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#3424143 - 07/14/14 07:44 AM Re: Ecoboost or Not. [Re: tangojetta]
Miller88 Offline


Registered: 04/09/08
Posts: 6856
Loc: Onondaga County
I reallllllly want to put a catch can on my parents Escape. I may end up doing it once its out of warranty.
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#3424150 - 07/14/14 07:55 AM Re: Ecoboost or Not. [Re: Miller88]
demarpaint Offline


Registered: 07/03/05
Posts: 21378
Loc: NY
Originally Posted By: Miller88
I reallllllly want to put a catch can on my parents Escape. I may end up doing it once its out of warranty.


I'd put it on now, and take it off if there's a problem while its under warranty and has to go in for service. That is unless they bring it to the dealer for service, something I don't do. My thinking is if the catch can is going to be of any benefit long term, why wait until the warranty is up? Just thinking out loud.
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