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#2827372 - 12/07/12 04:30 PM Re: Motul 300V Ester Core oil launched [Re: d00df00d]
04SVT Offline


Registered: 03/19/11
Posts: 133
Loc: Texas
Originally Posted By: d00df00d
Originally Posted By: 04SVT
redline's 0w40 which mops the floor with motul 300v 0w40

How do you figure?


Oh, I'm sorry...I couldn't type a follow up post since I was at work. I was just throwing out babbling opinion of an oil I like without any fact base...just like turbokick is doing. I have not factual base and therefore do not actually necessarily believe what I typed. I just wanted to show him how silly it is to just say arbitrarily one oil is better than the other just because I've used it and liked it.

Again, sorry for adding nothing beneficial to the thread. I do feel that the RL is a stouter oil though than the Motul; only by a little though.


Edited by 04SVT (12/07/12 04:31 PM)

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#2827428 - 12/07/12 05:16 PM Re: Motul 300V Ester Core oil launched [Re: OpelFever]
CATERHAM Offline


Registered: 11/18/05
Posts: 9563
Loc: Burlington, Ontario, Canada
Originally Posted By: OpelFever
Originally Posted By: buster
Originally Posted By: d00df00d
I love Finland.

Seriously. That's one of the reasons I bought a Nokia recently.


I like Finland too.

This has zero to do with patriotism. LOL. At least for me. Funny thought though.

USA! Moibl 1! USA! Mobil ! grin


You are both welcome to visit and get ripped off on oil LOL. Yesterday was independence day and I'm feeling so patriotic I'll provide a link to a Finnish oil:

http://www.delron.fi/english/car.htm

Thanks for the DelRon MotorSport Oils link; very impressive.
In particular I like their 0W-40 with it's 215 VI. To bad they don't provide HTHSV data. See below:
http://www.delron.fi/english/dragster.htm
They're obviously taking advantage of the latest advances in polymer technology. Their 10W-60 has an even higher 222 VI.
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#2828871 - 12/09/12 05:19 AM Re: Motul 300V Ester Core oil launched [Re: 04SVT]
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Registered: 09/10/12
Posts: 50
Loc: East Of Heaven
Originally Posted By: 04SVT
Turbokick, in an earlier post you talked about lifter noise with M1; please don't make me search it out. What car exactly are you tracking that has lifters? Can't be the car in your Sig. I think it's more likely you posted what you've read on here about people saying they have top end noise with M1.

I'm positive motul 300v 0w40 is a great oil. I just think it is ridiculous to pay all that money for an oil that marginally out performs m1 0w40 for a fraction of the cost. The only 0w40 oil worthy of the increased price imo is redline's 0w40 which mops the floor with motul 300v 0w40



Hahahahaaaa, don't you know that BMW 323 M52B25 engine has hydraulic lifters?..

Another big specialist here, talking about car stuff.

No comment
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#2829154 - 12/09/12 11:31 AM Re: Motul 300V Ester Core oil launched [Re: turbokick]
OVERKILL Offline


Registered: 04/28/08
Posts: 26369
Loc: Ontario, Canada
Originally Posted By: turbokick
Originally Posted By: 04SVT
Turbokick, in an earlier post you talked about lifter noise with M1; please don't make me search it out. What car exactly are you tracking that has lifters? Can't be the car in your Sig. I think it's more likely you posted what you've read on here about people saying they have top end noise with M1.

I'm positive motul 300v 0w40 is a great oil. I just think it is ridiculous to pay all that money for an oil that marginally out performs m1 0w40 for a fraction of the cost. The only 0w40 oil worthy of the increased price imo is redline's 0w40 which mops the floor with motul 300v 0w40



Hahahahaaaa, don't you know that BMW 323 M52B25 engine has hydraulic lifters?..

Another big specialist here, talking about car stuff.

No comment


I believe this is a terminology mismatch, as he's likely thinking the engine has buckets, rather than lifters, which is indeed the case.
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#2829496 - 12/09/12 05:29 PM Re: Motul 300V Ester Core oil launched [Re: OVERKILL]
04SVT Offline


Registered: 03/19/11
Posts: 133
Loc: Texas
Originally Posted By: OVERK1LL
Originally Posted By: turbokick
Originally Posted By: 04SVT
Turbokick, in an earlier post you talked about lifter noise with M1; please don't make me search it out. What car exactly are you tracking that has lifters? Can't be the car in your Sig. I think it's more likely you posted what you've read on here about people saying they have top end noise with M1.

I'm positive motul 300v 0w40 is a great oil. I just think it is ridiculous to pay all that money for an oil that marginally out performs m1 0w40 for a fraction of the cost. The only 0w40 oil worthy of the increased price imo is redline's 0w40 which mops the floor with motul 300v 0w40



Hahahahaaaa, don't you know that BMW 323 M52B25 engine has hydraulic lifters?..

Another big specialist here, talking about car stuff.

No comment


I believe this is a terminology mismatch, as he's likely thinking the engine has buckets, rather than lifters, which is indeed the case.


Yup, exactly. Thank you.

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#2829504 - 12/09/12 05:39 PM Re: Motul 300V Ester Core oil launched [Re: turbokick]
04SVT Offline


Registered: 03/19/11
Posts: 133
Loc: Texas
Originally Posted By: turbokick
Originally Posted By: 04SVT
Turbokick, in an earlier post you talked about lifter noise with M1; please don't make me search it out. What car exactly are you tracking that has lifters? Can't be the car in your Sig. I think it's more likely you posted what you've read on here about people saying they have top end noise with M1.

I'm positive motul 300v 0w40 is a great oil. I just think it is ridiculous to pay all that money for an oil that marginally out performs m1 0w40 for a fraction of the cost. The only 0w40 oil worthy of the increased price imo is redline's 0w40 which mops the floor with motul 300v 0w40



Hahahahaaaa, don't you know that BMW 323 M52B25 engine has hydraulic lifters?..

Another big specialist here, talking about car stuff.

No comment


Typically Americans get the wrap for being know it all jerks. However, you seem to be leading the pack with your arogance. NO ONE (not even you) knows about every engine produced. However, overkill is correct. Lifter are what pushrod engines have...or that's what we call them in the states. OHC/DOHC engines have lifter buckets. You only said lifters. Maybe you should learn more about engines and their terminology yourself before you go around telling us how stupid we are.

BTW, I thought you were too good for this discussion and weren't coming back in.


Edited by 04SVT (12/09/12 05:40 PM)

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#2829543 - 12/09/12 06:33 PM Re: Motul 300V Ester Core oil launched [Re: dparm]
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Registered: 03/19/11
Posts: 133
Loc: Texas
This thread has gotten off track. I am partly to blame; for that, I am sorry.

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#2837968 - 12/17/12 12:52 PM Re: Motul 300V Ester Core oil launched [Re: turbokick]
A_Harman Offline


Registered: 10/01/10
Posts: 4268
Loc: Michigan
Originally Posted By: turbokick
Originally Posted By: OVERK1LL


There is so much wrong with that statement I don't even know where to begin.....

No, the approvals an oil has doesn't prove anything about the lubricant at all. We need elves and fairies sprinkling pixie dust 'round our heads whilst we chant Gregorian, stomping our staffs on the ground to really know. Obviously the extensive testing performed by manufacturers and the oil companies to guarantee a level of performance with regards to specs met and certifications obtained is useless drivel compared to the reliance on blind faith, hyperbole and conjecture. Those are much better foundations with which to form a solid reference point from..... crzy


Sorry man, really... I expected something more from you, this post is quite weak. It's obvious you have nothing constructive to tell in this occasion, it's better not to waste your time.
Regards.


I thought Overkill pretty much cleaned your clock with his post, turbokick. Once you backed yourself in a corner saying that certifications and approvals don't mean anything, you were wide open for a plastering.
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#2837981 - 12/17/12 01:02 PM Re: Motul 300V Ester Core oil launched [Re: A_Harman]
Clevy Offline


Registered: 11/11/10
Posts: 7351
Loc: Saskatoon canada
Originally Posted By: A_Harman
Originally Posted By: turbokick
Originally Posted By: OVERK1LL


There is so much wrong with that statement I don't even know where to begin.....

No, the approvals an oil has doesn't prove anything about the lubricant at all. We need elves and fairies sprinkling pixie dust 'round our heads whilst we chant Gregorian, stomping our staffs on the ground to really know. Obviously the extensive testing performed by manufacturers and the oil companies to guarantee a level of performance with regards to specs met and certifications
obtained is useless drivel compared to the reliance on blind faith, hyperbole and conjecture. Those are much better foundations with which to form a solid reference point from..... crzy


Sorry man, really... I expected something more from you, this post is quite weak. It's obvious you have nothing constructive to tell in this occasion, it's better not to waste your time.
Regards.


I thought Overkill pretty much cleaned your clock with his post, turbokick. Once you backed yourself in a corner saying that certifications and approvals don't mean anything, you were wide open for a plastering.



Hehehe.
I may not be a mobil 1 fan however if I'm not mistaken the 0w-40 has more oem certifications than any other oil on the planet,regardless if it's a group 3 or gtl or whatever basestock it is.
But I guess when oem's certify specific oils for use in their engines they do it because of the backroom bags of cash that exchange hands,not what they feel is right for the engines they built.
And ya,overkill plastered him.
Do they sell that pixie fairy dust oil up north here or is that just in Europe,since only Europeans get the good oil?
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#2840122 - 12/18/12 11:22 PM Re: Motul 300V Ester Core oil launched [Re: dparm]
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Registered: 07/03/11
Posts: 927
Loc: TX
Turbokick only gets Junior troll points for this thread.

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#2840312 - 12/19/12 08:08 AM Re: Motul 300V Ester Core oil launched [Re: Clevy]
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Registered: 08/04/03
Posts: 1856
Loc: NJ
Originally Posted By: Clevy

Do they sell that pixie fairy dust oil up north here or is that just in Europe,since only Europeans get the good oil?

If you're referring to Motul, yes. Do a search on spec lube or Motul Canada.

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#2841747 - 12/20/12 09:52 AM Re: Motul 300V Ester Core oil launched [Re: dparm]
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Registered: 12/01/12
Posts: 29
Loc: Pennsylvania
It's a shame that turbokick was so unnecessarily rude in his posts because his message that Motul is extremely good oil is actually quite right. Is it leaps and bounds better than M1, though? Probably not.
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#2841879 - 12/20/12 11:53 AM Re: Motul 300V Ester Core oil launched [Re: wally21]
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Registered: 10/20/05
Posts: 9216
Loc: PA
Originally Posted By: wally21
It's a shame that turbokick was so unnecessarily rude in his posts because his message that Motul is extremely good oil is actually quite right. Is it leaps and bounds better than M1, though? Probably not.

Agreed.
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#2841890 - 12/20/12 12:00 PM Re: Motul 300V Ester Core oil launched [Re: bluesubie]
Clevy Offline


Registered: 11/11/10
Posts: 7351
Loc: Saskatoon canada
Originally Posted By: bluesubie
Originally Posted By: Clevy

Do they sell that pixie fairy dust oil up north here or is that just in Europe,since only Europeans get the good oil?

If you're referring to Motul, yes. Do a search on spec lube or Motul Canada.

-Dennis


I use motul in my Harley. I like the brand. That comment was a referrence to our European members who seem to think North American engines will dissolve using the factory recommended lubricants.
I agree that euro engines spec better oils but that's due to their longer drains and let's admit their operating conditions on European highways. NA oils work fine in our climate and operating conditions.
I've been trying out the liqui-moly brand lately and although it's anecdotal I like how the engines run that I use their products in.
My basement is filled with euro spec oils. From rp to liqui-moly,then thin ones but only pennzoil in that flavour.
There is more than one way to skin a cat.
I also agree with dermapaint when he complains that to maintain his warantee he has to use a 20 grade. There should be an allowable 30 grade option in north America if it's an option in other countries.
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#3244810 - 01/11/14 11:08 AM Re: Motul 300V Ester Core oil launched [Re: dparm]
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Registered: 12/06/12
Posts: 66
Loc: North Europe
Sorry to bring this old topic up.

In the MSDS it now says CAS 72623-87-1 lubricating oils, petroleum c20-c50 hydrotreated neutral oil based for the whole 300V series. Is this grp III? Depending on viscosity 10-50%.

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