6 year old handcuffed and hauled away

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Originally Posted By: urrlord
I live near there.

The school tried to contact the parents 6 times while this was ongoing before calling the police..I have seen news interviews where one of the aunt's was complaining that she was not contacted despite not being listed on emergency contact forms.Now the parents are complaining that the child is having night mares and they may contact Al Sharpton.Just from the interviews they appear to be low class trash that are now trying to find some angle to get a cash payout.

If they taught the kid how to behave and that throwing things etc is not acceptable none of this would have happened.From the fact that the school repeatedly tried to contact the parents ,the probability that the outburst went on a few minutes before the teacher called for assistance,then the administrators tried to calm the kid before calling for police.That is quite a while.Then the police tried to calm her down before cuffing her.She had plenty of time to modify her behavior.Sounds like there are some mental,household training,or drug problems all contributing here.
As for the fact she's supposedly having nightmares or whatever.Tough.Maybe now she will equate bad behavior with getting in trouble and remember that for the rest of her life.


I'm sure you would be ecstatic and full of praise if your kid was handcuffed and hauled away.
 
I would be furious with my kid for acting that way and profusely apologetic to the powers that be. I would then take a few days off of work to ponder the error of my ways in raising my kid.
 
Well civic fan.
I would be embarassed by my kids actions ,apologetic to all involved.Now I would be a bit ticked at the cops ,but I would be more ticked at my kid for their actions.The cops have a job to do and established ways of doing things that minimize danger to all involved.
Actually I think there should be a staff member with a paddle and authorized to use it in elementary and middle schools.When mt step daughter was in middle school my wife went down to visit the principal.With my stepdaughter present she signed a paddling authorization form.Kiddo got good grades that year because she did not act out in class.
 
Originally Posted By: 95busa
I love parents who create a mess of a kid then blame the people who have to deal with the issues they create.


That is the gist of it. My mom was a kindergarten teacher for 30 years. In today's world, you so much as even touch a child and the lawsuits will be filed by parents. Because of that, I'm afraid calling the police was the only thing this school could have done.

Things are so [censored] backwards. Back in the day, a swift smack to a kids bottom and a time out with consequences would have solved every problem this little brat had. But no, she's probably a spoiled rotten little punk who's never been disciplined in her life.
 
Originally Posted By: urrlord
I live near there.

The school tried to contact the parents 6 times while this was ongoing before calling the police..I have seen news interviews where one of the aunt's was complaining that she was not contacted despite not being listed on emergency contact forms.Now the parents are complaining that the child is having night mares and they may contact Al Sharpton.Just from the interviews they appear to be low class trash that are now trying to find some angle to get a cash payout.

Now, can you imagine if one of the teachers or school employees put their hands on the kid? You can bet your bottom dollar the kid would be complaining of injuries (likely coached by the parents) and a million dollar lawsuit would be filed by Gloria Allred.
 
Originally Posted By: IndyIan
So why isn't someone in the school trained to physically intervene? Maybe its the first time the student went off, but if they are identified as having self-control and authority issues, then there has to be a plan to deal with it. It should be a child worker with training to physically restrain an out of control student with pre-approval to do so from the parents which is a condition for attending the school.
No need to waste the police's time on temper tantrums...


Indeed. Here is what the typical plan is (thanks to IDEA, LRE all that has flowed forth from them). (Generally)you can't touch the kid and even if you intervene while the kid is beating the snot out of another one, be prepared for a child abuse investigation and lawsuit because "How DARE YOU touch my child."

Because of IDEA, LRE, and FAPE that disruptive/destructive/violent kid will remain "fully included" (what used to be called mainstreaming) classroom allowed to wreak all kinds of havoc on the mental and physical well being of the other kids as well as destroying any real opportunity to learn.

Free and Appropriate Public Education (FAPE) is quite frankly a joke. Its all about the absolute right to a public education but speaks nothing of the responsibility of the student and parents regarding being allowed access to their FAPE. A successful attorney could even argue that in extreme cases such as this, other children's rights under FAPE are being violated because having to tolerate a classroom where such behavior is routine is not remotely appropriate. Of course no one ever looks at FAPE from the standpoint of the rest of the kids in the class.

All of the "specialist" will come up with a plan that does nothing more than enable the behavior. Oh Johnny you feel like you're going to "go off" well just take a walk down to the counselors office or resource room and spend the next 30 to 60 min piddling around having now achieved exactly what you wanted - not being in the classroom. Wash-rinse-repeat.

The cops were called in this case precisely because of what others have mentioned - the school personnel would have to be insane to touch the kid.

As for CivicFans comment... I'd be in an outrage at my child's behavior not at that of the cops. I'd also be profoundly embarrassed for having failed so miserably as a parent that things had to come to this.

Then again, considering that a large number of parents possess neither dignity nor humility... well you end up with the current state of affairs.
 
Originally Posted By: Kestas
I see a lot of criticism toward the way this incident was handled, but I see no one suggesting how this should have been handled. The child was violently destructive and clinically out of control.

Exactly right....I would nearly guarantee that the parents are on "public assistance" of some sort....
 
Originally Posted By: Kestas
I see a lot of criticism toward the way this incident was handled, but I see no one suggesting how this should have been handled. The child was violently destructive and clinically out of control.


The kindest way might be euthanasia.
 
The police did the right thing. She and her parents (if they aren't disciplining the girl for this) should be seriously warned and grounded.

Our law should change so that teachers doing their job shouldn't be sued, and kids can be dispelled and parents should be held liable for their kids bad behaviors.
 
Originally Posted By: morris
god makes children smaller so we can control them, dont pass the job on to someone else.

Be nice if we (teachers) were allowed to. Just covered for a PE teacher today. Two kindergarteners got into it during a game of tag. One fell down and yelled at the other for pushing him and before I can even walk over there, the instigator (shover) kicked the other kid in the face who was still lying on the ground and a gushing bloody nose ensued.

I didn't dare touch the kid who kicked the other one, particularly since he was a minority. I put myself between the little punk and his non-minority victim yelled at the rest of the class (who were also being little turds) to set down and zip it. There regular classroom teacher warned me about this particular group and how she has difficulty controlling them but luckily an extremely displeased 6'3" 225lb former male prison guard with a shaved head is still enough of an imposing figure to put the fear of God in them. I snagged an aide that was walking by the gym, had her watch the class. I picked up the crying and terrified kid and carried him into the main office and into the nurse - with the bonus of doing it in front of 5 parents waiting in the office to speak to the principal who at this point had looks of just absolute horror on their faces.

Then I came back to deal with the little felon in training and tried to get him to the office as he was causing a disruption and threatening other students and the principal hadn't arrived yet. I ordered him to the office and he refused. I ordered him again and started to herd him that way using just the presence/physical proximity of my body. He kicked me in the shin.

Long story short, he eventually got to the office with the assistance of the principal. Then I went back and chewed on the rest of the class for their overall appalling behavior. And then finally came all the paperwork.
 
Originally Posted By: PandaBear

Our law should change so that teachers doing their job shouldn't be sued, and kids can be dispelled and parents should be held liable for their kids bad behaviors.


Look up IDEA (individuals with disabilities act), LRE (least restrictive environment), and FAPE (free and appropriate public education) and you'll quickly understand why this isn't possible thanks to the feds and past court cases.
 
It's hard to discipline a kid without teachers and parents on board. Thankfully a lot of parents around me "get it", and have well-disciplined kids who are usually pretty good. Of course, there are the parents who don't give a rip about their kid's upbringing.
 
the school can't spank the kid. what are they supposed to do? let her go wild attackin people. I agree with the other poster who said "kid didn't get tazed or sprayed with maze" nothing to see here.
 
Originally Posted By: Pablo
Too many Skittles.
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Originally Posted By: buickman50401
Be nice if we (teachers) were allowed to. Just covered for a PE teacher today. Two kindergarteners got into it during a game of tag. One fell down and yelled at the other for pushing him and before I can even walk over there, the instigator (shover) kicked the other kid in the face who was still lying on the ground and a gushing bloody nose ensued.

I didn't dare touch the kid who kicked the other one, particularly since he was a minority. I put myself between the little punk and his non-minority victim yelled at the rest of the class (who were also being little turds) to set down and zip it. There regular classroom teacher warned me about this particular group and how she has difficulty controlling them but luckily an extremely displeased 6'3" 225lb former male prison guard with a shaved head is still enough of an imposing figure to put the fear of God in them. I snagged an aide that was walking by the gym, had her watch the class. I picked up the crying and terrified kid and carried him into the main office and into the nurse - with the bonus of doing it in front of 5 parents waiting in the office to speak to the principal who at this point had looks of just absolute horror on their faces.

Then I came back to deal with the little felon in training and tried to get him to the office as he was causing a disruption and threatening other students and the principal hadn't arrived yet. I ordered him to the office and he refused. I ordered him again and started to herd him that way using just the presence/physical proximity of my body. He kicked me in the shin.

Long story short, he eventually got to the office with the assistance of the principal. Then I went back and chewed on the rest of the class for their overall appalling behavior. And then finally came all the paperwork.

Remember, diversity is our strength.

I remember the same thing when I went to school done by the kids who were bussed in to enhance our cultural experience.
 
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Modern day parents aren't allowed to raise their children. If they so mush as raise their voice when the child is in a snit, people call 911 for verbal abuse.

Precisely, but physical abuse of the kids is something I do not condone.

Who said they condone THAT?
 
Originally Posted By: Loobed

Remember, diversity is our strength.

I remember the same thing when I went to school done by the kids who were bussed in to enhance our cultural experience.

Don't forget the phrase "vibrant community".
 
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