whats with the dodge challenger manual

[mcshooter]

the manual on my buddies hemi challenger showing to only use semi-syntetic ...he was looking to do his first oil change and was planning on using a full syn until he read the manual..

 

[Lead Shoes]

Use anything better than semi synthetic, the manufacturer is not going to deny a claim when you used oil better than specified in the manual.

 

[oilboy123]

+1

 

[Toto]

what year and what size hemi?

 

[NHGUY]

Maybe thats a minimum spec.With the new SN rating,thats a really tough spec for a pure dyno to meet.

 

[NHHEMI]

Originally Posted By: mcshooter
the manual on my buddies hemi challenger showing to only use semi-syntetic ...he was looking to do his first oil change and was planning on using a full syn until he read the manual..


Not sure where you/your buddy read that? Chrysler does not call for semi synthetic in anything that I have ever seen. In the Challenger they call for conventional 5W30 in the V6 model, conventional 5W20 in the 5.7L HEMI model, and in the SRT 6.1L and 6.4L models they call for either 5W40 or 0W40 full synthetic.

If your buddy has an SRT model he actually HAS to run full synthetic to preserve his warranty. Conventional oil is not spec'd for the SRT models. If he has a regular 5.7L HEMI he can run synthetic no problem but he still has to change it within the max allowed for OCI( 6 months/6000 or 6 months/8000 depending on year ). There is no extra time/mileage allowed for if running synthetic.

2009 - Present Challenger oil spec's...

Conventional/Synthetic oil for the 2009-2012 5.7L = 5W20, API Certified w/Starburst, and meets/exceeds Chrysler MS6395

Synthetic oil for the 2009 6.1L = 0W40( 5W40 alllowed for ), API Certified SM or SM/CF, and meets/exceeds Chrysler MS10725

Synthetic oil for the 2010 6.1L = 5W40, API Certified w/ Starburst, and meets/exceeds Chrysler MS10725 and approved to MB 229.3 or MB 229.5

Synthetic oil for the 2011 6.4L = 5W40, API Certified w/ Starburst, and meets/exceeds Chrysler MS10725 and approved to MB 229.3 or MB 229.5

Synthetic oil for the 2012 6.4L = 0W40, API Certified SM or SM/CF *

* = oddly for the 2012 SRT model there is no mention of the oil used needing to meet the Chrysler MS10725 synthetic oil standard and they revert back to API SM oil?

 

[SteveSRT8]

Note that Chrysler also has a TSB on the 6.1 motors allowing 15w-50 oil for motors that have noisy oil squirters.

The age old MDS debate should be even more interesting now that the 6.4 uses both VVT and MDS, yet specs 40w oil!!!

 

[Flying_A]

And the SRT's were/are come with M1 as the factory fill...

 

[SteveSRT8]

Sorry, but M1 has been "off the cap" for quite a while now.

 

[OVERKILL]

Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
Sorry, but M1 has been "off the cap" for quite a while now.


Since the Fiat takeover, correct?

 

[NHHEMI]

Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
Note that Chrysler also has a TSB on the 6.1 motors allowing 15w-50 oil for motors that have noisy oil squirters.

The age old MDS debate should be even more interesting now that the 6.4 uses both VVT and MDS, yet specs 40w oil!!!


Same exact mechanical components for the MDS between the 6.4L and the 5.7L? Same exact programming? Not sure of your point unless everything is exactly the same mechanically and programming wise between the two engines with MDS.

 

[dailydriver]

So the SRTs can use Mobil 1 0W-40 and be fully OK under warranty??

 

[NHHEMI]

Originally Posted By: dailydriver
So the SRTs can use Mobil 1 0W-40 and be fully OK under warranty??

As long as it is called for or allowed for in the model year the vehicle is.

 

[meep]

!!!!also note: warranty will require Chrysler MS-6395 spec on the bottle!!!!

 

[NHHEMI]

Originally Posted By: meep
!!!!also note: warranty will require Chrysler MS-6395 spec on the bottle!!!!


That is their conventional oil spec. The SRT's call for synthetic and that spec is MS10725.

 

[4x4chevydude]

usually thats a minimum spec, it wouldnt be hard for them to arugue that a better oil caused the issues.