.45 repeatingI like to change my oil every 3,456.45 miles. I find my engine is smoother.
.45 repeatingI like to change my oil every 3,456.45 miles. I find my engine is smoother.
No, you need statistics to analyze data and compare reliability of 1.5t to other engines. Just because you dont hear much on social media does not mean there is no issue.You don’t need statistics from Honda. There’s plenty of videos from techs and amateur mechanics that show for example headgasket failure on the 1.5t engines
Most people don't do religious UOAs and keep those records from day one to monitor the engine's health, and most people don't tear down engines to inspect for excessive wear and damage. Most people just drive the vehicle and if it moves and "seems to be running OK", then they think all is well when in fact it really may not be. Most people only think something is wrong when the engine starts acting up in an obvious way, or "blows-up" in a drastic way. Most people are not totally "tuned in" to their engine as long as it runs, it's "just fine" in their mind.But that's just it...nobody actually has the experience to base all the hysteria over this issue on. I don't see/hear aobut Honda engines having any issues by all my friends/neighbors that have them. At this point we'd know if this was an issue that was worth worrying about.
"Normal" doesn't automatically mean "good". Someone can say that whatever the end result of a design and manufacturing of a product is "normal" because "it is what it is" and that's how it turned out. But that does not mean the design is good or optimum. In this case, it's not good or optimum because it's not "normal" compared to many other engine designs with respect to fuel dilution with use.If Honda designed the motor this way....it is as much as you may not like it..."normal" for that engine.
Do the experiment I proposed earlier and you can find out first hand what a 7,500 to 10,000 OCI with 20% fuel dilution would show on an UOA compared to a non-fuel diluted OCI of the same length with the same oil. Use a 0W-20 to simulate what those diluting Hondas are suppose to run. Yes, motor oils can take "some" fuel dilution (typically less than 5%), but when it gets to 20+% as many articles have said it can have a dramatic impact on lubrication. Go prove it to yourself on your own vehicles if you don't think it's a big deal. Otherwise, your claims that it has zero impact on engine wear and longevity is just counter noise towards all the links posted up on how fuel dilution can impact lubrication.I mean if someone has as was quoted earlier 20% dilution, I assume that number from a UOA? What were the wear metals like? Surely that excess wear on bearings, valve guides, etc would show, right? Seems to me like modern oils can take some fuel and still provide adequate protection, isn’t that the point of engine oil?
I didn't say it was."Normal" doesn't automatically mean "good". Someone can say that whatever the end result of a design and manufacturing of a product is "normal" because "it is what it is" and that's how it turned out. But that does not mean the design is good or optimum. In this case, it's not good or optimum because it's not "normal" compared to many other engine designs with respect to fuel dilution with use.
You said it was "normal" for that engine. So you agree that the design sucks in terms of controlling fuel dilution?I didn't say it was.
Yep...100%.You said it was "normal" for that engine. So you agree that the design sucks in terms of controlling fuel dilution?
20%+ fuel dilution is not "normal" for any vehicle. It's a problem, and not "normal" in any way. A vehicle can have all kinds of problems going on, that someone could say are "normal" for that vehicle, but that doesn't mean they are not problems that need to be addressed. Excessive fuel dilution isn't "normal" in any respect on any vehicle, no more than burning a quart of oil every 500 miles is "normal" even though some might burn oil at that rate.Yep...100%.
Edit. My comment is folks flip out when things don't do what they think is normal based on other vehicles. Normal is defined, to me, as what is normal for the vehicle at hand.
My life 100%. A few years ago while in college I went to smoke a cigarette out on my front porch and woke up in the hospital. Apparently my gf found me laying down blue in the face and freezing cold and she couldn’t wake me up. She called 911, and they administered narcan thinking I was on drugs (the city I lived in during that time was on par with Baltimore). Come to find out my blood sugar was about 400 and went into a diabetic coma and did not even know I had diabetes at the timeCarry this over to personal health. There are people running around with blood sugar levels well over 300, and A1C levels of 9+. It doesn't mean they're going to die. It doesn't.
And they call it a function!I wouldn't believe Honda if they told me the sky was blue. I go by what I see and experience.
This thread was not really targeted at such extremes or going overboard for whatever reason you conjured.Does this sound anything like urban American driving?
Clearly not.
Cone type filters that seal onto the intake tube tend to do better than your regular drop-in style filter; the seal around the air filter box deteriorates overtime, unless you apply Shin-Etsu grease on a very regular basis. But even then, the seal will eventually harden, crack and tear apart over time whereas cone filters, such as those found in GM applications, have a built-in seal that does very well because it always gets replaced with the air filter.About how long can an air filter be expected to last out there? I'm talking about the standard OEM paper pleated replacement from any of the major brands.
+1 Although I think you might have meant DECREASE the OCI. Fuel dilution [20% in this example] and extending the OCI because you are using a premium oil might just be the perfect formula for a shorter engine life.If you have fuel dilution, (regardless of make or engine type), throw away the owners manual in relation to OCI. You had better increase the OCI if you plan on having any type of a long engine life......
Regardless of the oil you choose. The best oil money can buy, diluted 20% with gasoline, isn't going to perform anywhere near as effectively as the cheapest non diluted dino oil.