If this is something they've disclosed as you say, their customers should be aware. If not, how did you become aware of this?As annoying this might be for the dedicated BITOG member it's nothing compared to what the Global steel makers disclaim about their product. The world's steel makers - all of them - disclaim internal inclusion & contamination failures up to 2% of their product because it comes from the.........earth. That means that anyone making parts from earth sourced steel has an automatic 20,000 ppm failure potential when their end customer demand ZERO ppm.
I worked in the business side of Automotive, spent most and best time in purchasing, buying all the steel the company used for the production of stamped metal parts and welded assemblies. The OEM's will never address this issue as by the time the metal parts arrive at the car build, the inclusion containing steel parts have usually been found and discarded. I've seen a Toyota reach end of assembly when a split B pillar was discovered. The CEO of the plant ensured this car was completely scrapped. And this same Toyota plant stamped the bad part. Cost of doing business with Earth sourced raw materials.If this is something they've disclosed as you say, their customers should be aware. If not, how did you become aware of this?
That doesn’t really make sense. If it’s harmless that means the quality is fine.Thats definitely a quality control issue even if this is harmless.
Agree with exchange. But by the time one does that, and the gas it took to get it there (one’s time and travel cost money), the supposed bargain they supposedly got has evaporated. Repeat that a few times, along with always wondering if some other quality issue exists, and all of a sudden those more expensive, custom oils that many people initially balk at suddenly become a value proposition.Have never seen anything but oil in jugs and bottles …
Probably lean towards taking it back like for like …
Eventually when the Jeep’s out of PT warranty bcs we know that motor does not dilute … have lots of SP stash at the moment anyway …Agree with exchange. But by the time one does that, and the gas it took to get it there (one’s time and travel cost money), the supposed bargain they supposedly got has evaporated. Repeat that a few times, along with always wondering if some other quality issue exists, and all of a sudden those more expensive, custom oils that many people initially balk at suddenly become a value proposition.
There’s an incalculable value of knowing the product is correct and the same from batch to batch, and is made with materials superior to what’s found on a WM shelf. Add in the fact that two of these higher-quality oil manufacturers are board sponsors, and that a majority of the threads started in the oil sections are “what’s the best oil for…?”, you’d think we’d see more threads teaching people how to safely stretch OCIs based on data, and not their emotions.
Because most of the data on the site shows very few engines and use profiles are truly at the limits of ALL available oils; it’s that shelf oils that are at their limits of what can be done for $5/quart, not what can be done period. And that’s a big difference.