Originally Posted By: Trajan
Originally Posted By: Robenstein
There are always plans in the military(I mean look at some of the U.S. Military Proposals over the years). Hitler was a man who planned lots of things just to plan them, with units and divisions that only existed on paper(his generals often commented on this). The fact they were never attempted was also because the Swiss were simply too stubborn of a target in Hitler's eyes.
The reasons as to why it was never done have been explained. I am well aware about Hitler and his phantom divisions. I am also aware that it was in 1945. In 1940, the divisions that overarn the Norway, Denmark, Holland, Belgium, and France were real.
Next you'll tell me that Spain and Sweden were not invaded for the same reason, this armed citizen myth.
Spain was allied to Germany albeit loosely, and Sweden had economic ties to Germany and German allies like Finland, especially in regards to arms and raw materials. And Hitler always had wild fantasies and plans all around, even before the desperate situation of 1945 when he really lived in la la land.
But enough arguing history and especially world war two. The fact that it only needs to have happened once in history to really have any merit, even only if it is a factor in deterrence and not the main reason itself. The founding fathers sure felt it did, and that fact can be seen by reading their collective writings on firearm ownership. So we need to focus more on factors not associated with the technology being used in these rampage shootings. Mental health, firearms education, better enforcement of laws all can lower gun crime and not restrict the rights of astronomically overwhelming majority of law abiding civilian gun owners.
Sure you can protect your house or person with a 5 snot snubbie, but why deny a person the same level of protection we give to lets say a police officer on the street? Sure they put themselves out there, but just because the danger may come to us in the middle of the night when we are in bed are we any less deserving? Lets face it, a 17rd Glock gives you a better chance of protecting yourself than a 5 shot 38 special...especially if there is more than once assailant. I know my mom has an AR15, and there are reasons for it. Her arthritis makes shooting a handgun difficult, and the recoil of a shotgun...well she is a very very small woman. So I took her old 357 she could no longer physically shoot and her old hunting rifle and traded it in on a gun that is easy to operate(she can pull the trigger and it wont knock her over or slip out of her hands), allows her a very efficient form of defense, and is reliable.