Originally Posted By: NHHEMI
Ah, the rampant lunacy that an RP thread brings out on BITOG. You just have to laugh.
Let's review the RP histoory here...
When API SM came out and replaced SL RP refused to reformulate to meet the new standard w/ lower ZDDP because they felt it would lower the quality of their product. BITOG members beat up on them like an old west lynch mob for that decision and said SM was a superior oil and they needed to get with the times. The entire time API SM was the current standard RP was repeatedly beat up on for not reformmulating the more popular weights to meet it and their SL formula was called inferior to the average name brand SM oils.
When API SN came out RP reformulated their oils so they could offer an oil that meets current warranty standards for new cars with their new API Certified line. They did exactly what people like the bashers on BITOG hollered for them to do! However, to achieve ceritification to API SN they had no choice but to remove their signature additive( Synerlec )or they could not meet the standard. Now the bashers are beating up on them for lowering the quality of their oil.
When they refuse to reformulate thhey are wrong and when they do reformulate they are also wrong. Doesn't sound to me like they can win at all with these people no matter what they do.
Valvoline Synpower and the Napa synthetic from Ashland which is similar are highly regarded oils here at BITOG. You almost never hear anything bad about them and they are recommended all the time. However, when RP is compared to those oils suddenly they are nothing special and overhyped and such. If the new RP SN stuff truly is the same as Synpower that means it is a very good oil but some here at BITOG would rather shoot their dog than ever give RP and ounce of credit.
The people on this site are flat out a riot at times. This thread is a classic example of the RP hate and bashing that is just so unfounded and hypocritical it isn't even funny. I sometimes wonder if people even think for 1/2 a second what they are actually saying when they beat up on RP?
RP refuses to reformulate to API SM, which required removal of their signature additive, so it was a "bad" oil. The SL stuff was trashed as not good and SM would be better.
RP reformulates to API SN, but has to remove it's signature additive to do so, yet it is still a "bad" oil? They come out with the HPS line that retains their Synerlec additive for those who want it. Now the same people who trashed RP for not changing to SM because it was better than the SL stuff are now trashing them for going to SN and claim the old SL stuff and/or the HPS oils are the good stuff. WHAT????
RP is now being compared to Valvoline and Napa oils which are always talked of highly UNLESS RP is said to be similar and then they aren't very good. Valvoline = good. Valvoline and RP similar = bad/overhyped. HUH????
The people on here have to make you laugh. There is just nothing else you can do but laugh. API SN is API SN. I don't understand why anyone thinks RP API SN is somehow inferior to other API SN oils. They all are going to be the same basic stuff. You can't have Synerlec in an SN oil so why try and compare the new SN oils from RP to their old SL stuff or the new HPS line? It's nuts to do so.
The masses on BITOG raised cain for years about how RP should reformulate to meet current API standards as it would make their oil better. When they do just that BITOG still trashes them. Just shows the real nature of those here who beat up on it. They beat up on it for reasons other than the product itself.
Of course the whole price thing has to come in all the time which is just so ridiculous it is not funny. RP is not sold in 5 qt jugs at WalMart like other oils are. You can't use that against them. Qt bottle vs Qt bottle price the cost is within $1 of each other so RP SN is NOT over priced. If you shop around and buy on deals I have shown RP can be had for the same, or even less than, those 5 qt WM jugs. That is even discredited.
You just can not get a fair and reasonable review of RP on this site. Too many with a massive bias and agenda to ever do so. The most hillarious part is most of those who's mission in life is to bash RP at every opportunity have never used it. Now that right there is laughable.
Who ever said valvoline or napa were bad oils? You should know everyone on here says those oils aren't long OCI oils and a great oil for shorter OCIs due to TBN retention. Unless you buy the high performance oils, why would you spend over double for an oil that has almost an identical additive package? Compared quart to quart its still $2/qt higher than most any oil here as its 8.47/qt here. Since I cant buy it in 5qt jugs, it is over priced for what you get. I also noted that the additive package was due to being SN. Where did I bash on RP, you were taking info from my post and calling it bashing? Whats wrong with comparing oils that are very similar? Whats laughable is you getting your panties in a bunch....
Ah, the rampant lunacy that an RP thread brings out on BITOG. You just have to laugh.
Let's review the RP histoory here...
When API SM came out and replaced SL RP refused to reformulate to meet the new standard w/ lower ZDDP because they felt it would lower the quality of their product. BITOG members beat up on them like an old west lynch mob for that decision and said SM was a superior oil and they needed to get with the times. The entire time API SM was the current standard RP was repeatedly beat up on for not reformmulating the more popular weights to meet it and their SL formula was called inferior to the average name brand SM oils.
When API SN came out RP reformulated their oils so they could offer an oil that meets current warranty standards for new cars with their new API Certified line. They did exactly what people like the bashers on BITOG hollered for them to do! However, to achieve ceritification to API SN they had no choice but to remove their signature additive( Synerlec )or they could not meet the standard. Now the bashers are beating up on them for lowering the quality of their oil.
When they refuse to reformulate thhey are wrong and when they do reformulate they are also wrong. Doesn't sound to me like they can win at all with these people no matter what they do.
Valvoline Synpower and the Napa synthetic from Ashland which is similar are highly regarded oils here at BITOG. You almost never hear anything bad about them and they are recommended all the time. However, when RP is compared to those oils suddenly they are nothing special and overhyped and such. If the new RP SN stuff truly is the same as Synpower that means it is a very good oil but some here at BITOG would rather shoot their dog than ever give RP and ounce of credit.
The people on this site are flat out a riot at times. This thread is a classic example of the RP hate and bashing that is just so unfounded and hypocritical it isn't even funny. I sometimes wonder if people even think for 1/2 a second what they are actually saying when they beat up on RP?
RP refuses to reformulate to API SM, which required removal of their signature additive, so it was a "bad" oil. The SL stuff was trashed as not good and SM would be better.
RP reformulates to API SN, but has to remove it's signature additive to do so, yet it is still a "bad" oil? They come out with the HPS line that retains their Synerlec additive for those who want it. Now the same people who trashed RP for not changing to SM because it was better than the SL stuff are now trashing them for going to SN and claim the old SL stuff and/or the HPS oils are the good stuff. WHAT????
RP is now being compared to Valvoline and Napa oils which are always talked of highly UNLESS RP is said to be similar and then they aren't very good. Valvoline = good. Valvoline and RP similar = bad/overhyped. HUH????
The people on here have to make you laugh. There is just nothing else you can do but laugh. API SN is API SN. I don't understand why anyone thinks RP API SN is somehow inferior to other API SN oils. They all are going to be the same basic stuff. You can't have Synerlec in an SN oil so why try and compare the new SN oils from RP to their old SL stuff or the new HPS line? It's nuts to do so.
The masses on BITOG raised cain for years about how RP should reformulate to meet current API standards as it would make their oil better. When they do just that BITOG still trashes them. Just shows the real nature of those here who beat up on it. They beat up on it for reasons other than the product itself.
Of course the whole price thing has to come in all the time which is just so ridiculous it is not funny. RP is not sold in 5 qt jugs at WalMart like other oils are. You can't use that against them. Qt bottle vs Qt bottle price the cost is within $1 of each other so RP SN is NOT over priced. If you shop around and buy on deals I have shown RP can be had for the same, or even less than, those 5 qt WM jugs. That is even discredited.
You just can not get a fair and reasonable review of RP on this site. Too many with a massive bias and agenda to ever do so. The most hillarious part is most of those who's mission in life is to bash RP at every opportunity have never used it. Now that right there is laughable.
Who ever said valvoline or napa were bad oils? You should know everyone on here says those oils aren't long OCI oils and a great oil for shorter OCIs due to TBN retention. Unless you buy the high performance oils, why would you spend over double for an oil that has almost an identical additive package? Compared quart to quart its still $2/qt higher than most any oil here as its 8.47/qt here. Since I cant buy it in 5qt jugs, it is over priced for what you get. I also noted that the additive package was due to being SN. Where did I bash on RP, you were taking info from my post and calling it bashing? Whats wrong with comparing oils that are very similar? Whats laughable is you getting your panties in a bunch....