Originally Posted By: fdcg27
Please note that any resemblance to actual members in the thread below is entirely intentional and is intended in a spirit of lighthearted entertainment, without any malice on my part.
The thread begins with some newbie or troll asking what oil he should use in his car, with the car in question ranging from a tracked 911 SC to some end of life beater.
The fun then ensues.
There is a member who will post that the choice of oil really doesn't matter, but that a Fram orange can oil filter must be used. This is especially amusing for those cars that don't use canister filters.
Another member will post that M1 on 10K intervals is all you need to know.
Yet another member will invariably begin his post with either "In the M5..." or "In my old Mustang...", never mind that the car in question is a four cylinder Asian sedan.
Someone else will say that GC should be used in any application.
Someone will then reply that Syntec 0W-40 is the better oil.
Another party will then recommend M1 0W-40.
A brand war might then ensue, with various member recommending MSS, PP, PU, VR1, along with just about every other PCMO or HDEO you know of, along with some you've never heard of.
Someone is sure to post that he sees 20% better fuel economy using (insert oil brand here).
Someone else is certain to post that (insert brand of oil here) causes sludge.
Someone else will then chime in that (insert oil brand here) is unsurpassed as a cleaner, after all, it says so in the promos.
Someone else will then insert a plug for MMO or ARX or Kreen or Seafoam or some other additive.
A certain member is sure to post something about all of these oils being too thick, and that a high VI twenty grade is probably sufficient.
If we get really lucky, a wealthy plastic surgeon will post that he finds twenty grades perfectly adequate for his Italian fantasy cars.
The thread may now veer off in a thick versus thin direction, with a certain member noting that the engine in question is speced for forty grade oil in Germany, so this must be the correct grade.
Someone will then continue to beat this dead horse by replying about the good performance of twenty grade oils over the past decade in countless Fords and Hondas.
Someone will then post that all of those Fords and Hondas are heavy oil consumers.
Someone will then post that they aren't.
We will probably then see a dino versus syn debate, with many on both sides making absurd arguments.
There is a mod who will make rational arguments in favor of dino, based upon real data.
He'll be dissed and dismissed by the syn true believers, even though he has data to show that synthetic oils are not any better in protecting the engines that 99% of us use.
Someone (probably me) will post that if you maintain a stash of near FAR oils, synthetic is cheaper to use.
We could also see a classic OCI drift in the thread, with proponents of everything from 3K to 10K drains putting their two cents in.
This will likely lead to a debate of the reliability of OLMs and how early the FF should be changed. No conclusive result will be reached either way.
At the end of the day, most of us will have done little more than vent our prejudices.
Or did we share our experiences?
The OP will likely have learned little of value to him, except that whether thick or thin, synthetic or dino, any oil changed at a reasonable interval, or even an unreasonably long one, will work just fine in almost every engine almost all of the time.
I guess that does have some value after all.
This is a really entertaining and educational site.
Perhaps if you numbered these lines, we could have a discussion just by listing the numbers:
BITOG'er #1: "1,3, and 16"
BITOG'er #2: Oh yeah, well what about 8, 13, and 25?"
This would save a lot of typing.