Ok, I guess outside of special circumstances I don't see the need for a "cleaning dose".
In the US and Canada we have Top Tier and minimum requirements for all gas.
And you've demonstrated caution should be used when using higher dosing than the manufacturer recommends.
For a port injection engine:
-Maintenance dosage should be 0.13oz per gallon of fuel
-Cleaning dosage should be 0.38oz per gallon of fuel
Not everyone uses a top tier station and not everyone trusts that top tier is good enough for their engine type or driving style.
AAA also found Top Tier gasoline can have a cleansing effect, reducing intake valve deposits by 45 to 72 percent when used over a 5,000-mile interval. Variation in the results is attributed to the detergents used by different brands.
One question I would pose to you since you're on the hunt for information.
Is it better to run a "cleaning" dose versus several maintenance doses in a row? There is naturally a time aspect to all of this.
Would it be better to run a high dose for 1 tank versus maintenance dose for say 3 in a row?
IE: Full dose is 1oz/gallon. That worked out to 0.3oz PEA/gal with old formula, 0.15oz PEA/gal current. And current recommendations is 2x per oil change.
1/4 to 1/2 of that seems appropriate if you want to use it more often, depending on how often.
1/4 oz/gal = ~0.04oz PEA/gal, could use this every fill up probably
1/2 oz/gal = ~0.08oz PEA/gal, could use this 4x per oil change.
What about 360?Sta-bil marine uses PEA in the formulation.
What about 360?
It says on the manufacturers website that 360 has PEA
https://www.goldeagle.com/product/sta-bil-360-protection/
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Issue is I don't see it in the safety data sheet (2021):
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I switched to Chevron Marine multi years ago for boats and small engines … some outboard OEM products are just Techron anywayWhat about 360?
ThanksIt says on the manufacturers website that 360 has PEA
https://www.goldeagle.com/product/sta-bil-360-protection/
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PEA seems to be hard to find in Canada (outside Amazon) but Canadian Tire has Gumout products.
Three have PEA according to their website (All in One Fuel System Cleaner, High Mileage Fuel System Cleaner and Complete Fuel System Cleaner) but i don't know which one has the highest concentration.
Anyone have some insight?
The thing is if i buy one a year then its going to matter.Insight is not to worry about PEA concentration.
For peace of mind, vary among the available products, at some time or mileage interval, and keep driving.
I also found a store that carries Redline SL1 in a city only 45 mins drive away.
All those 3 have similar concentrations of PEA, so i would feel comfortable using any of them.PEA seems to be hard to find in Canada (outside Amazon) but Canadian Tire has Gumout products.
Three have PEA according to their website (All in One Fuel System Cleaner, High Mileage Fuel System Cleaner and Complete Fuel System Cleaner) but i don't know which one has the highest concentration.
Anyone have some insight?
Interesting, thanks.At that point, it's probably cheaper to order on Amazon instead of spending the gas.
$26 for one ($19.36US) with free shipping if it's your first order
or
$47 ($35US) for two with free shipping
https://www.amazon.ca/Line-60103-Complete-System-Cleaner/
If you've got a Hyundai dealer near you, give them a call with this part number 00232-19047, it's rebottled Techron.
https://www.ebay.ca/itm/HYUNDAI-00232-19047-FUEL-INJ-CARB-CLEANERS/195523047463
or from a BMW dealer
part# 83-19-5-A07-750
Sounds good, and Canadian Tire has Gumout on sale this week for 20% off and is local, i will grab some high mileage version this evening.All those 3 have similar concentrations of PEA, so i would feel comfortable using any of them.
The all-in-one is usually a larger bottle which costs more but treats a few more gallons of gas.
It has upper cylinder lube (but less than HM), and claims to treat ethanol issues.
The high mileage contains upper cylinder lube, to me this is the better all around product and my preference.
Gumout Regane series has good dose of PEA, namely 'Complete' and 'High Mileage' but they have to be of Regane series. You can go to their website and check SDS sheets. I checked all - Royal Purp, B12, S1 etc SDS sheets, I recall S1 was the best but very expensive compared to Gumout.PEA seems to be hard to find in Canada (outside Amazon) but Canadian Tire has Gumout products.
Three have PEA according to their website (All in One Fuel System Cleaner, High Mileage Fuel System Cleaner and Complete Fuel System Cleaner) but i don't know which one has the highest concentration.
Anyone have some insight?
Good to knowGumout Regane series has good dose of PEA, namely 'Complete' and 'High Mileage' but they have to be of Regane series. You can go to their website and check SDS sheets. I checked all - Royal Purp, B12, S1 etc SDS sheets, I recall S1 was the best but very expensive compared to Gumout.
I just buy Gumout Regane Complete in US WM (US$6.34) when happen to be there, I'm just lucky to live 43 km away from closest US WM.
This cleaner works very well as I can tell by getting smoother running engine. Gumout Tune Up has PEA, sold at Can WM but more expensive, also works great.