Originally Posted By: OVERKILL
Originally Posted By: HTSS_TR
Back in 1990 Acura NSX 3L V6 generated 270 HP for 90 HP/L with 8k redline, Porsche 911 engine at that time produced less than 80 HP/L, it took Porsche 6-7 years to get to 90 HP/L. I took BMW 17 years to get 3L engine, for European only market with not as stringent emission control as US, to make 270 HP.
1990:
BMW M3 (non-EVO): 2.0L, 189HP, 94.5HP/L
BMW M3 (EVO I): 2.3L, 197HP, 85.7HP/L
BMW M3 (EVO II): 2.3L, 217HP, 94.4HP/L
BMW M3 (EVO III): 2.5L, 235HP, 94HP/L
That's three BMW M3 examples, including the "plain Jane", that made more than 90HP/L in 1990. But I applaud you for your carefully worded statements slagging Porsche for not meeting the 90HP/L target but omitting BMW from that bullet and instead focusing on the 3.0L 270HP target instead because the 90HP/L number had already been met back in 1986 with the M3.
You take your Honda cheerleading seriously sir
The careful crafting of your above post demonstrates that.
Mercedes was a tick over 75hp a L in the 50's with their fuel injected I6 in the Gullwing.
The most power dense NA motor has to be the Jag I6, in race trim those things scream. I have seen full race 427's, big block Mustangs, and all sorts of American iron with gobs of HP unable to pull on them on straights.
Now every manufacture has a hard on for turbo's so they can mask poorly designed engines with more boost.
Originally Posted By: HTSS_TR
Back in 1990 Acura NSX 3L V6 generated 270 HP for 90 HP/L with 8k redline, Porsche 911 engine at that time produced less than 80 HP/L, it took Porsche 6-7 years to get to 90 HP/L. I took BMW 17 years to get 3L engine, for European only market with not as stringent emission control as US, to make 270 HP.
1990:
BMW M3 (non-EVO): 2.0L, 189HP, 94.5HP/L
BMW M3 (EVO I): 2.3L, 197HP, 85.7HP/L
BMW M3 (EVO II): 2.3L, 217HP, 94.4HP/L
BMW M3 (EVO III): 2.5L, 235HP, 94HP/L
That's three BMW M3 examples, including the "plain Jane", that made more than 90HP/L in 1990. But I applaud you for your carefully worded statements slagging Porsche for not meeting the 90HP/L target but omitting BMW from that bullet and instead focusing on the 3.0L 270HP target instead because the 90HP/L number had already been met back in 1986 with the M3.
You take your Honda cheerleading seriously sir
Mercedes was a tick over 75hp a L in the 50's with their fuel injected I6 in the Gullwing.
The most power dense NA motor has to be the Jag I6, in race trim those things scream. I have seen full race 427's, big block Mustangs, and all sorts of American iron with gobs of HP unable to pull on them on straights.
Now every manufacture has a hard on for turbo's so they can mask poorly designed engines with more boost.
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